Tell me the truth and tell me now.

<p>Harvard Yale Princeton Wharton UChicago</p>

<p>Country: Canada
Ethinity: Asian
Fin-Aid: Needing full aid (low income family)</p>

<p>SAT: 2160
SAT II: Biology M - 760
Math II - 750</p>

<p>Extremely competitive public high school
GPA: 92% roughly
School does not rank, but roughly top 3%
Taking the hardest courses available (except music..)</p>

<p>No AP credits yet, taking 2 APs this year (school only offers 2 APs)</p>

<p>No significant awards</p>

<p>Extracurriculars (school):
- President of business club
- Co-president of student ambassadors (founder of school-wide program that awards volunteerism)
- Founder of astronomy club (purely for interest and discussion purposes)
- PR officer for school magazine
- Secretary for music council
- School Orchestra (all 4 years) as well as outside of school youth orchestra (2 years).
* plays violin (until grade 11..) with (only) grade 8 RCM.</p>

<p>Community Extracurriculars:
- Various leadership roles in an youth organization that is part of [located in] city hall.
- One of the founding members and Director of Comm for an youth action group.
- Elected president of a student company (an afterschool program).
- Member of a group that select works for a magazine published by public libraries.</p>

<p>Teacher Recs: I have no idea, I am "writing" one of them, and the other one..well the teacher loves me. Submitting an additional rec from my EC's advisor.</p>

<p>Essay: Basically explaining why I got involved in my ECs..somewhat autobiographical. (I was struggling with English the first couple years in Canada..which contributed to my sub-par grade 9 & 10 mark..and my lack of ECs in those years. Do you think I should mention this in my essay?)</p>

<p>Thanks for reading!</p>

<p>Chances? Comments? Suggestions?</p>

<p>HYP + Penn are high reaches, Chicago a mid-reach.</p>

<p>Thanks, anyone else?</p>

<p>another bumpp.</p>

<p>No chance at any you asked for the truth.</p>

<p>Care to elaborate ivyleague324?</p>

<p>elaborate: 2160</p>

<p>I think it might be the 2160 that kills you.</p>

<p>Yeah you have no chance of getting in unless you score a 2380+, and even then it’s still a reach.</p>

<p>What is this nonsense?</p>

<p>I agree, all the schools on your list are high reaches.</p>

<p>I meant that it is nonsense that someone posts something like this:
Yeah you have no chance of getting in unless you score a 2380+, and even then it’s still a reach. </p>

<p>No, your schools are not that much of a reach.
I think you have fair chances.</p>

<p>I regret my post that I just posted.</p>

<p>By reading this:
I have no idea, I am “writing” one of them (recommendations)</p>

<p>I do not think you have any chances.
Honesty is a big policy in all of your schools.
No, not all of your schools, but I would say every university in the world.</p>

<p>Of course a 2380 isn’t necessary, by 2160 is low for an unhooked asian applicant.</p>

<p>Of course a 2380 isn’t necessary, by 2160 is low for an unhooked asian applicant.
^Not really.</p>

<p>Yes, really.</p>

<p>Schmohawk, the matter is that she needs financial aid.
If she needs financial aid for schools such as UChicago or UPenn, it will be extremely difficult for her. This is when SAT comes into play.</p>

<p>However, some schools on her list are need-blind.
In effect, her problem is her mediocre ECs.</p>

<p>SATs basically rubber stamp her school and her course load.</p>

<p>yes, needing FA is also a problem, as are the so-so ECs. But that SAT score puts her in the bottom 25% of people admitted to HYP- a place reserved for athletes, development cases, and minorities. </p>

<p>So as a total package, no to those schools.</p>

<p>I think I should be a CC-mythbuster for you.
So what is this SAT score range that puts her into the 75% percentile?</p>

<p>Considering that she is an international, the SAT score neither helps nor hurts her entire application.</p>

<p>Look at the common data set for any college- it will tell you the lower, middle and upper ranges for students attending.</p>

<p>So SATs don’t matter for internationals? Are you serious?</p>