<p>does anybody else have any opinion about this situation? i do not wish for any buttered-up comments, only the blatant truth. however, it would be nice to hear some optimistic news.... =]</p>
<p>I certainly don't think you are dead in the water. If you perform well, I believe that you still have a shot, but I try not to give false hope. I think you do realize the gravity of your situation, and if you could do it over again you would change things. </p>
<p>If I were you I would do the following:</p>
<p>Once you've decided on a college, meet with the pre-med adviser, explain your situation and get his/her opinions</p>
<p>Set yourself up for success academically - this means taking an appropriately course load (don't take 20 hours just b/c they'll let you), be careful about your major, and which profs you take classes from, putting together good study habits from day one (this is something you can work on now while in HS)</p>
<p>Don't forget about the other parts of your application. Start volunteering and shadowing as soon as you feel comfortable in your new home. These are two things that any freshman can do, and it's a great way to build up some impressive totals.</p>
<p>Get involved, ask your RA or older students where applications for various organizations are usually distributed, and be sure to walk by on occasion. If you happen to join a fraternity or sorority older members will likely be able to help you with this info. (a note on greek life: on some campuses it can be a major asset and very beneficial - like it was for me, on others a huge liability, make sure you know what type your school has). Just by being vigilant about the opportunities available you should be able to take advantage of some unique things.</p>
<p>Start looking for ways to get involved in research. Your school may have specific research initiatives to get undergraduates involved. Even if they don't, ask around. At the bare minimum, go to the department offices and ask how you can get involved.</p>
<p>Work your ass off!</p>
<p>It's no guarantee, but starting early and keeping your grades high while taking care of everything else is going to help you overcome the hole you've dug for yourself.</p>
<p>thanks for the advice bigredmed. a little off topic, but i tried to think of alternate paths....and i was just wondering, say i decide to pursue another career....say attaining an MBA eventually. in terms of getting a job after undergraduate graduation, would my 2 f's still go into that GPA? as well as my GPA for Business schools (i dont know if the rules are the same AMCAS in terms of stating HS CC courses)</p>
<p>ok so now I am very confused, as I emailed various medical schools about my situation, and i got a reply back from UPenn and it goes against what bluedevilmike and bigredmed have been saying about the whole fraud issue. below are the emails that were sent from myself and UPenn.</p>
<p>"Hello,
I am a prospective medical student. My high school years were not very great, and I ended up failing 3 courses at a community college while in high school. These grades were not on my high school transcript however. I was just wondering if these 3 courses would be incorporated into my medical school admissions GPA "</p>
<p>"We do not look at high school transcripts and because they are not listed on the transcript, the only way we would know this was the case is if it is listed on the AMCAS application.</p>
<p>Best wishes,
University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine"</p>
<p>"Thank you for the reply. Since those community college grades weren't put on my high school transcript however, would I still need to list them on my AMCAS application? "</p>
<p>"No they do not need to be listed.</p>
<p>Regards,
University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine"</p>
<p>The first answer is very consistent with my expectations.</p>
<p>Again, to emphasize, however, the second question is NOT medical school jurisdiction. It is AMCAS jurisdiction, and you'll find that their instructions are very clear.</p>
<p>so basically what youre saying is that although each individual med school might have different rules, they require AMCAS applications. and the AMCAS application requires to cite all post-secondary classes taken, therefore the med school would see it anyway?</p>
<p>Exactly. (Texas state schools -- i.e. the UT system --do not use AMCAS.)</p>
<p>Now, if you contact AMCAS and it turns out that they will be amenable to your omitting these classes, I will certainly eat several pieces of paper in apology for panicking you. But individual medical schools do not have the authority to tell you what to or not to include on your AMCAS form.</p>