<p>Very interesting article. I have a funny feeling that Chapman won't be that low for long. </p>
<p>The</a> 25 Best Film Schools Rankings - The Hollywood Reporter</p>
<p>I like this list. We could all argue on the order but to me the more important thing is the grouping. Most people reading this list on CC won’t be thinking about Beijing for film school so if you take out the non-U.S. schools then the list looks like this:</p>
<p>AFI
USC
NYU
UCLA
CalArts
Columbia
Wesleyan
UNC-SA
U Texas
Syracuse
Stanford
Florida State
Emerson
Loyola Marymount
UW Milwaukee
RISD
Chapman
Northwestern
Colorado Film</p>
<p>Ignoring the order… That’s a good list of film schools! A couple of surprise names for me: UW Milwaukee and Colorado Film School. I’ve heard zero about each of these. </p>
<p>High school film hopefuls would be well served by investigating all of these schools to see about the fit.</p>
<p>I’ve never heard about Colorado Film. Milwaukee has a very good experimental film program going on, as does Southern Illinois University at Carbondale.</p>
<p>I spent some time on the Colorado Film School website and it looks like several colleges have contributed to what is now CFS. I am actually going to contact them to get additional information. I’ll let you know what I find out.</p>
<p>Wheaty dear
if you’ve seen any of the film made by Zhang Yimou, you might reconsider what you said above.
one of my kid’s teacher (white blue eyed all American upper middle class-sh) did stint there.</p>
<p>and
have you apologized to Miss-my-first-choice-school-said-no?
see my post#405
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/visual-arts-film-majors/927468-cooper-union-graphic-design-27.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/visual-arts-film-majors/927468-cooper-union-graphic-design-27.html</a>
never underestimate the power of “I would never have thought”</p>
<p>today(I mean which day wasn’t?) is the bears’ “let’s pick on heli-dads day”
digmedia
you are going to tell them you are writing a book and you’d give everyone credits and send them thank you note/gift aftwerward, yes?</p>
<p>Bears,</p>
<p>I meant no slight towards the Beijing film school, I was just thinking that nobody reading this on CC is applying there. Your first hurdle is the language barrier. So not only would an American kid have to beat out 999,950 Chinese applicants, she would have to be fluent in Mandarin. IMO, this list is more useful in this forum if you delete the very VERY unlikely schools (Beijing, Prague, etc.) and examine the rest.</p>
<p>Just as an aside, I’m trying to imagine how my daughter’s application would be received in Beijing. 
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<p>I have no doubt that Beijing turns out excellent film students, I was just trying to provide a more realistic grouping for readers of CC.</p>
<p>Best,
Wheaty</p>
<p>she’d be a star! talk about the “hook”
<a href=“http://www.amazon.com/Foreign-Babes-Beijing-Behind-Scenes/dp/0393328597/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2[/url]”>http://www.amazon.com/Foreign-Babes-Beijing-Behind-Scenes/dp/0393328597/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2</a>
they’d teach internationals Chinese along side of film, no?</p>
<p>and there were international posters and US film kids asking about their chance in UK or french schools, and your either D is fluent in French, yes?
maybe you guys want to consider why so many foreign schools are listed rather higher (and cost cheaper) if survey is done in “Hollywood” general?</p>
<p>OK OK I shut up (hundred times)</p>
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<p>Mais oui! Guilty as charged!</p>
<p>gawd you are cute!!
now try mandarin chinese?</p>
<p>Just to clarify, you cannot enter AFI directly out of high school? It’s more of a “graduate school”? And it’s only two years?</p>
<p>AFI is a conservatory that graduates students with M.F.A.s</p>
<p>You must have a bachelors’ to be considered for admittance.</p>
<p>AFI is graduate only, UCLA has a program you need to apply for in the 3rd year, and is really known as a very strong graduate program, Columbia had more of a film studies program undergrad, and again, a VERY strong graduate program, (undergrads can only make films through a film club, not as part of classes), RISD is more for animation than live film production. So… I’m not quite sure what aspect of “film” the list entails. </p>
<p>I would urge everyone to be very cautious when looking at “best of” lists. They are all biased in some respect. This list was comprised of industry insiders: but who? Producers? Animators? Cinematographers? Reporters? It seems to me they are comparing apples and oranges here with some grad only, some undergrad, some only animation, some not etc…</p>
<p>Whether we’re searching for the best film school or the best science school, I think the most important ingredient of all, is a well-rounded education. If a school delivers a great arts program, but can’t deliver a well-rounded education, then the degree is meaningless. </p>
<p>Here’s another site I think everyone should consider checking out when searching for schools.<br>
[Compare</a> Schools - What Will They Learn?](<a href=“http://www.whatwilltheylearn.com/schools/compare]Compare”>What Will They Learn? - Search and Compare Schools)</p>
<p>I don’t want to bother people if I can help it (really)
but ELITE, who are these people, and why are you bringing this up?
you should be happy that Chapman is in there, and destiny said nice thing about it in the opening post, even.</p>
<ul>
<li>we evaluate whether major colleges and universities require seven key subjects: English composition, literature, foreign language, U.S. government or history, economics, mathematics, and science.</li>
</ul>
<p>^eh… where is ART? I mean FILM? esp. for grad school?
ratings made out of published on-line catalogues? with no regard to what kids actually take and which courses how often? </p>
<p>I don’t think they are apples and oranges, madden. maybe yellow apples and red apples. Fuji or grannysmith.
kids keep asking if they should do UG or wait till grad school. people here answer that goal is the same.
besides, this list says each degrees that offered there.
kids just have to do their own homework and research on their own.
and
I don’t like any works by Gus Van Sant but just because he went there and being best known stand alone artschool, plus they’d promote each other every chance they got, which makes RISD somewhat legit. that’s how it goes.</p>
<p>B & D,
I find What Will They Learn is an interesting site and it’d be a helpful resource for people who are searching for a well-rounded education regardless of their major. This would not apply to those who are looking to go to just an art school, and don’t care whether they get a well-rounded education. Yes, while we like the arts, but some of us also want our children to have a well-rounded education, so after they graduate, they have other options to fall back on in case their chosen field didn’t workout and can’t find work.</p>
<p>B&D: You made me laugh - yes, point well taken, they are all varieties of apples. Just want the kids to be sure to notice that they are not all undergrad or all film production programs.</p>
<p>Lists of the best are what they are, on the face of it What Will They Learn seems to have a laudable goal, but its criteria seem rigid and simplistic, with the appearance of objectivity, kind of like my college roommate computer science nerd’s method for girl friend search. The only school I really know well, LMU, has an F, but my reading of the University Core requirements doesn’t match their info, particularly in foreign language and math. Look at the 18 schools in the nation that receive an “A”, with a few exceptions hardly a list of schools known for academic and intellectual rigor (apologies in advance to all you Texans). It would take a lot of work to truly evaluate a university for it’s adherence to a well rounded education, and certainly requires more than looking at their catalog.
Does anyone have a feel for where a good summary of this type of information could be found, i.e. beyond Princeton Review?? It’s fine for entertaining misleading party school information. More power to finding good information about schools that guarantee a well rounded education.
As for the top 25, an interesting list with several addition/ommision surprises to me. I do question the usefulness of the list since it mixes undergrad with grad, and seems to be based at least partially on name dropping. Why am I surprised, it’s the Hollywood Reporter.</p>
<p>here is one of those list from another thread.
<a href=“http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/august/288725/Top-party-sober-schools-from-Princeton-Review?cid=rss[/url]”>http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/august/288725/Top-party-sober-schools-from-Princeton-Review?cid=rss</a>
so
CUNY Brooklyn is in A list in ELITE’s push and also made to sober list.
would that make it parents who wants best for kids’ dream school?
sure, come and pay up OOS tuition!!!
digmedia, see the best party school. how about it?</p>
<p>The “What will they learn” site is showing:</p>
<p>East Tennessee State (43% graduation rate!) as an “A” school
Harvard University (98% grad rate) as a “D” school</p>
<p>How is this a good tool for college admissions?</p>
<p>“Mom, Dad, I’m turning down Harvard and going to East Tennessee State!!!” Somehow I think that line only works in Hazard County.</p>
<p>I’m confused.</p>