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<p>Just because Harvey Mudd is good in some areas and weak in others doesn't rule it out as a potential candidate. CalTech is sort of similar in the same regard. It's pretty limited as well, with it being well-known for its engineering/science programs (would someone attend CalTech to get a degree in Linguistics or English?), but it's on everyone's Top 3 California colleges/universities list.</p>
<p>Caltech is just better known, but those in the know are aware that Mudders can go toe to toe with Engineers.</p>
<p>Yes, but Stanford and Berkeley are obvious, to me. The last spot? Caltech, Pomona, or Harvey Mudd. I'd probably go with the university. (Though Pomona/Mudd're a close second.) This isn't to say the others are substandard, but we're talking only three spots for the top in the state, and I think those three fit it nicely.</p>
<p>Top 3 in Cali:</p>
<p>Stanford
CalTech
Pomona</p>
<p>Top 3:
Stanford
Cal-Tech
UC Berkeley</p>
<p>Honorable mentions:
Pomona
Harvey Mudd
Claremont McKenna
UCLA
UCSD
USC</p>
<p>Its tough to compare colleges and universities. Pomona is one of the best liberal arts colleges, while uc berkeley is one of the best universities. i also feel that stanford, uc berkeley, and cal-tech fit just about right in regards to the top 3 schools in california. but i deffiantly could see how an argument could be made for pomona, it deffiantly has as excellent undergraduate body of students. Again though, it is difficult to compare large research universities like stanford, uc berkeley, ucla, ucsd, usc, and colleges like pomona, claremont mckenna, harvey mudd. but to exclude berkeley from the top 3 schools in california is a tough argument to make, in my opinion.</p>
<p>ckmets13,</p>
<p>Once again I have to disagree for anyone interested in doing research and learning from the professors who are doing some of the foremost research in the world NYU and Tufts beat out all of the other schools you mentioned. Not to mention that Tufts is known as one of the best in the country for International Relations and also has an outstanding economics program. NYU is far better than all of the other schools you mentioned in Economics, Math, Philosophy (best department in the world), Journalism, Film, Acting, Creative Writing, Business and many other areas.</p>
<p>West Point is a great school, but it is in totally different category that many people would never consider.</p>
<p>I agree with ucchris. Stanford and Berkeley are pretty obvious to me, but perhaps not to certain others ...</p>
<p>GA:
1) Emory University
2) Georgia Tech
3) Agnes Scott</p>
<p>Morehouse and Spellman would be there too. UGA isn't very good unless you get the honors program</p>
<p>Louisiana:
Tulane
New Orleans U
LSU</p>
<p>VA:</p>
<p>University of Virginia
William and Mary
Washington and Lee (top 20 for both law and ugrad, 1st school of journalism is US, only lib arts with accredits business and journalism programs, law is only post-bacc)</p>
<p>I completely agree with W&L</p>
<p>MA:
Harvard
MIT
Tufts (all big surprises, right??)</p>
<p>NY:
Cornell
Columbia
Rensselaer </p>
<p>CA:
Caltech
Stanford
UC B</p>
<p>TX:
Rice
UT Austin
Texas A+M</p>
<p>MN:
Carlton
U of M - Morris
U of M - Twin Cities </p>
<p>though this is completely subjective.</p>
<p>Some of the professors may be more well known at NYU especially since it has a PhD program in many areas, but the avg student is stronger at Colgate, Vassar, Hamilton, RPI, URochester.</p>
<p>fhimas888888, Macalester is way better than U of M Morris</p>
<p>MN:
Carleton
Macalester
St. Olaf/ U of M TC (tie)</p>
<p>Florida:
UF
Miami
FSU</p>
<p>Michigan:
UMich
Mich State
???</p>
<p>Indiana:
IU
Purdue
Notre Dame</p>
<p>Ohio:
Ohio State
Miami
Ohio U</p>
<p>DC:
GTown
GW
American</p>
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<p>gellino, where do you get this data? I'm not disagreeing with you; I'm just curious because you seem so certain that these schools are "better" than NYU.</p>
<p>And this topic fails anyway. "Better" in what? Define it before going out on a limb with your largely subjective, unsupported claims. Undergrad or Grad? Which schools? Which departments? Etc. Etc.</p>
<p>Just going to do a few of the states I'm most familiar with... the ranks I'm posting are based on reputation as I see it (northeasterner, fan of LACs)</p>
<p>New York
1. Columbia University
2. Cornell University
3. Vassar College
HM: Colgate University, University of Rochester</p>
<p>Massachusetts
1. Harvard University
2. Massachusetts Institute of Technology
3. Amherst College
HM: Williams College, Tufts University</p>
<p>Pennsylvania
1. University of Pennsylvania
2. Swarthmore College
3. Haverford College
HM: Carnegie Mellon University</p>
<p>Connecticut
1. Yale University
2. Wesleyan College
3. Trinity College</p>
<h2>Pennsylvania</h2>
<ol>
<li>University of Pennsylvania</li>
<li>Carnegie Mellon University</li>
<li>University of Pittsburgh</li>
</ol>
<p>Honorable Mentions-- Swarthmore College, Haverford College, Lehigh University</p>
<p>It really depends what you want to do, though. Swarthmore and Haverford are probably both in the top 5 LACs in the country, I just think Pitt offers a more well-rounded education and better opportunities.</p>
<p>Maine
1. Bates
2. Bowdoin
3 Colby</p>