<p>I was actually debating between Miami and Kenyon for the 3rd spot. Maybe I'm biased since I live 10 miles from Case and am majoring in engineering.</p>
<p>Kentucky was mentioned earlier, but I would argue that Centre is the most competitive in the state, followed by Transylvania and then UK.</p>
<p>I would rank OSU over Miami. </p>
<p>Quality of student? Miami has a slight edge but there are higher numbers of students with top stats @ OSU due to its size. Supply and demand might require a few with lower stats at the bottom but the intellectual capacity of the students is not much different.</p>
<p>OSU > Miami in almost every undergraduate program, except business in which OSU is quickly improving. There are many, many, drawbacks to Miami. I am not way off base.</p>
<p>I would rate Ohio as:</p>
<ol>
<li>Oberlin</li>
<li>Kenyon</li>
<li>CWRU</li>
<li>OSU</li>
<li>Miami</li>
</ol>
<p>I would rate Wisconsin as:</p>
<ol>
<li>UW-Madison
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_</li>
<li>Marquette</li>
<li>Wisconsin-Lacrosse</li>
</ol>
<p>pennsylvania:
upenn
swarthmore
carnegie mellon</p>
<p>new jersey:
princeton
tcnj
rutgers</p>
<p>new york:
columbia
cornell
u of rochester</p>
<p>For Florida:</p>
<ol>
<li>University of Florida</li>
<li>University of Miami</li>
<li>Florida State University</li>
</ol>
<p>Honorable Mentions:
University of Central Florida (It's improved a great deal, while FSU has steadily declined.)
Stetson University (Great law school.)</p>
<p>California:
1. Stanford
2. CalTech
3. UC-Berkeley</p>
<p>Pennsylvania:
1. UPenn
2. Carnegie Mellon
3. Swarthmore</p>
<p>Florida:</p>
<p>1st - The University of Florida was ranked 47th
2nd - The University of Miami was ranked 54th
3rd - Florida State University was ranked 110th
4th - The University of South Florida was ranked Tier 3
5th - Florida Institute of Technology was ranked Tier 3
6th - The University of Central Florida was ranked Tier 4</p>
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5th - Florida Institute of Technology was ranked Tier 3
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<p>if a college can be called "FIT", it has to be cool.</p>
<p>New York:
Columbia
Julliard
Cornell</p>
<p>RI:
Brown
RISD
Providence</p>
<p>NC:
Duke
Chapel Hill
Davidson/Wake Forest</p>
<p>FOR MICHIGAN LAC's:</p>
<p>i applied to hope and albion along with many other MIAA schools but by far albion is a great school. now i am not saying the others arent, but i believe i am a tad biased seeing as how my mom works at the college and my dad is an alum. hope is a great school, i am not saying anything against it, but i feel albion beats out hope in the michigan lacs.</p>
<p>UCF went from a Tier 3 to a Tier 4 in the recent (2007) USNews ratings for undergraduate programs.</p>
<p>In general, FSU has better graduate school ratings than all but UF as of late, including UMiami. The most notable exceptions with UF are engineering and medicine. UMiami still has a better rated med program. Virtually all other comparable and competing programs are closely rated with UF's. </p>
<p>In emphasis areas, Florida State beats even UF. The recent freshman class has the highest academic achievement of any in history. To suggest it's 'declining' is just plain wrong and obviously an incredibly biased statement. If anything, FSU is working extremely hard at improving all national rankings and gaining admittance to the AAU. For example, the undergraduate College of Business just gained three spots to #25, nationally, of all public universities (#43 overall). UCF's business program was rated something like 143. UMiami's business program was rated 70 overall.</p>
<p>For undergraduate, Massachusetts:</p>
<p>Amherst
Tufts
Wellesley</p>
<p>New York</p>
<p>Columbia
West Point
Kings Point</p>
<p>CA:
Runner-ups: UCLA/Pomona</p>
<p>For Massachusetts, I'd add Olin.</p>
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The main issue I have with that comparison is the way Princeton runs their curriculum and classes. The school offers very little breadth for students' study and I'd say if you do not know exactly what you want to do when you attend then it is not the school for you. There is no double majoring or minoring, studying outside of your field (humanities/sciences/social sciences) is made difficult and the office makes it sound next to impossible for non-art majors to at all take advantage of the dance and music programs. And the overall atmosphere to me is rather pompous with many people putting up walls.
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<p>I disagree with most of this and I don't know you got all of your information either. First of all, you do not have to know EXACTLY what you want to study when you arrive here. You make it sound as if when you apply you're basically confining yourself to that major (which is false). No college does this and I don't see why Princeton would. You are able to explore and take a variety of classes to see what interests you. Princeton actually encourages it and that's what many of my classmates are doing.</p>
<p>Yes, there's no double-majoring but we can get certificates (which is basically minoring). Many people get certificates and take advantage of this since we are not able to double-major (due to the senior thesis, which you "conveniently" forgot to mention. this is basically the entire reason why we can't double major).</p>
<p>I don't know much about the dance and music programs, but I don't think the academic office would discourage anyone from taking advantage of them. Why would they create those programs if they would just end up restricting people from taking them?</p>
<p>Even though I've only been here for a small amount of time, the people here aren't pompous. Most people are nice and down-to-earth. The constant mantra that many upperclassmen have told me is: Don't assume anything about anyone, you'd be surprised.</p>
<p>For Massachusetts I'd add Williams</p>
<p>I like transfer's rankings of Wisconsin much better than California Love's. University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee is probably the weakest of the UW schools. La Crosse is the second best. Just because UW-Milwaukee is big, doesn't mean it's good. I know kids who have had a 1.7 with a 17 ACT get in. It's not that hard.</p>
<p>"Washington:
Washington
Whitman
Washington State"</p>
<p>Washington State University is NOT a good school. it is where the UW rejects go. </p>
<p>in my opinion:
University of Washington
Whitman
University of Puget Sound</p>
<p>runner up: Seattle University. Gonzaga. </p>
<p>The Evergreen State College is also interesting, a little quirky.</p>
<p>For Florida - the University of Florida, and the University of Miami</p>
<p>Missouri - ah rankings way off, i'd say:
1. WUStl
2. Truman
3. U of MO - Rolla</p>