<p>Does anyone know (or have a good idea) of why this happens at schools, especially at Michigan? What would be Michigan;s motivation for rejecting someone with these stats?</p>
<p>UM has a holistic admissions process. They use a combination of factors- GPA, course rigor, testing, essays, recommendations and extracurriculars. </p>
<p>It is awesome to have 2 of the 6 be perfect, but a rejection holding those two, would tell me that the rest of the application is lacking in some way.</p>
<p>Admissions are not always about the numbers, and I think sometimes, places like CC and other chance me/comparison sites lose sight of that. </p>
<p>People with perfect stats can garner huge merit aid at other universities. If a student, especially a non-Michigan student, with perfect scores lobs a half hearted application into a university that gets thousands upon thousands of applications from students that absolutely will attend if admitted, it might give admissions pause. That is another aspect of “holistic” admissions that can be forgotten.</p>
<p>Is this person from out of state and in need of financial aid? Full pay goes a long way…</p>
<p>That is because Michigan’s admission policy is not meritocratic. In fact, Michigan hides behind the guise of a “holistic approach” to push through its radical liberal agenda. When some idiot with a 22 ACT from DPS gets in because he/she is of the right skin color and even get a diversity scholarship and the perfect kid from your typical suburb without “special factors” get rejected, that’s all I need to know about Michigan’s “holistic approach” that makes a mockery of equality.</p>
<p>Of course, the other students bear the consequence of this. For instance, during my 4 years in engineering, more than once I have been randomly assigned in groups with unqualified students from Cass Tech who struggle immensely with both the mathematical concepts and basic writing. One of them even kept bringing up the fact that he is on “Michigan Tradition Scholarship”; which tells me all I need to know about the Michigan Tradition of not being meritocratic. I feel for them in some ways because the school clearly didn’t put them in a position to succeed, but on the other hand karma works in very funny ways :)</p>
<p>Bearcats you have a lot of anecdotes but unless you are on the admissions committee you don’t have any facts to support your statements.</p>
<p>Michigan is a public university, heavily funded by the taxpayers of the State of Michigan. IMHO, there is nothing wrong with giving some preference to DPS students over out of state students, especially those who are not full pay and expect the university (and the Michigan taxpayers) to pay for their education. Because Michigan is so highly regarded I think a lot of people forget that and think it should act like a private university. </p>
<p>“Bearcats you have a lot of anecdotes but unless you are on the admissions committee you don’t have any facts to support your statements.”
And unless you are on the admissions committee you don’t have any facts to dispute my statements. In addition, it is well documented that the university fought tooth and nails to fight in-state residents desire to end racist affirmative actions. They are also never coy about their subsequent effort to use other correlated factors to circumvent such reasonable restrictions upheld by the supreme court.</p>
<p>“IMHO, there is nothing wrong with giving some preference to DPS students over out of state students,”
There is absolutely a lot of wrongs in giving preference to DPS students over other more in-state qualified students, or making other in state students suffer because they put skin color over merit.</p>
<p>Scores and GPA are only the necessary criteria to get invited into the party. After you are in the party, then people see if they want to hang around you for other reasons. Scores can never get you accepted by themselves; they are just the ticket to be reviewed further.</p>
<p>“Scores and GPA are only the necessary criteria to get invited into the party.”
Unless, of course, that you are of the right skin color. Then you don’t need a ticket.</p>
<p>^^ Unfortunately, that is problem in itself that needs to be rectified. However, there are many threads on that issue, so I will not comment here further.</p>
<p>The OP has not said if they are in-state or OOS, regardless of your opinion on how they select among in-state students. My guess is OOS.</p>
<p>^^ Good point. But, I do think the same issue arises. The got looked at with the scores, but if OOS, then the slots are limited and ultra more competitive. Way more applicants with those stats OOS than can ever be accepted. So someone has to get the reject letter.</p>
<p>Yes, but the bigger issue with OOS students is “can they pay”. Even for a perfect score, why should the taxpayers of Michigan foot the bill for an OOS student who needs FA? Ignoring all other aspects of “holistic admissions”, my guess is that this is what burned the OP.</p>
<p>^^ Yep! that would do it.</p>
<p>“Even for a perfect score, why should the taxpayers of Michigan foot the bill for an OOS student who needs FA?”
The taxpayers of Michigan foot no bill as it is. If anyone’s footing the bill it’s other OOS students. Michigan’s annual appropriation to the university doesn’t even cover close to half the gap between IS and OOS tuition on a per student basis.</p>
<p>Yes… and they want those OOS students to be FULL PAY so they cover more of the cost. Why should they accept OOS students who aren’t full pay at all if they have a lot of OOS applicants who are full pay (which they do)?</p>
<p>^this whole conversation is moot because the university claims to be need-blind anyway so you really don’t have a point unless the university is lying. </p>
<p>“However, University of Michigan admissions officials say decisions to admit University students are not based on applicants’ financial statuses and that the University is need-blind.”
<a href=“University admissions still need-blind despite funding cuts”>https://www.michigandaily.com/news/u-doesnt-consider-household-income-admissions-process</a></p>
<p>for all we know Michigan could be just as need-blind as it is race-blind, unless anyone has any data to back that up</p>
<p>as for high stat rejects, Tufts syndrome is a possiblity</p>