The Army Education thing....

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<p>I was just wondering about the army education program thing....</p>

<p>I was talking to a rep, and what he said sounded pretty nice:
-all tuition is paid for by the gov't
-you get a stable job
- only need to go 2 times a month
-no combat included, the job you have is the job you pick.
-looks good on resume
-2, 4, 6 year contract options.</p>

<p>But I was wondering... what's the bigger picture? What are more pros and cons? And if it's so good - how come people don't usually take this path?</p>

<p>...sorry if its in the wrong forum. o.o</p>

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<p>I believe you remain on active duty for 2 years after college, so they are free to do whatever they want with you if need be. The Army is also intense, but kudos for anyone who joins.</p>

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<p>The bigger picture is the surge in Iraq...</p>

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<p>Yeah, why else would they give such good terms? Maybe because that job could cost you your LIFE? When something sounds too good to be true, it usually is.</p>

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<p>The opportunity for leadership is certainly a pro. However, the dangers are of what you make of it. While in six years, I highly doubt the Iraq crisis will remain at large, many students are not willing to give up the sacrifice of two additional years.</p>

<p>The pay is also what you make of it. You will perhaps be making 25k-30k after graduating and will be serving as a Basic - however, you can rise up in two years and garner some leadership roles. Most people are not willing to serve two years for partially paid tuiton. </p>

<p>Those that truly cared about serving often applied to the Military Academies.</p>

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<p>It is a good deal, if you fully understand the requirements. Joining the military is a big commitment. Read the fine print and know what you are doing. The pros-you listed a few; others include pride, making a difference, and being involved in a great community. The cons-military life is much more demanding, you are signing away some options (you may be deployed).</p>

<p>The bit about no combat...I doubt that. You may be a mechanic, but you have a good chance of working on trucks in the middle east. Reservists (assuming that is what you are talking about) are getting deployed overseas.</p>

<p>The service academies are in place to make officers (a fairly small group). Many elisted people truly care and would rather be doing technical/hands-on jobs instead of management.</p>

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<p>Once you graduate you'll be shipped off to Iraq or somewhere else in the middle east. I guarantee it.</p>

<p>If you decide to do it be prepared to either lose some limbs (or your life) and see your fellow soldiers maimed in front of you.</p>

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<p>I followed this path to get my undergrad tuition paid, did the 6 year (+2IRR) option.</p>

<p>1 reason why so few do it is that not many people know about it. Because the whole system is pretty intricate, recruiters don't do that well of a job marketting it. Many often talk about more abstract concepts rather than getting down to business. I just happened to know a friend who did it and told me about it.</p>

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<p>S is at West Point, so I am supportive of military education. As with everything check and be sure of requirements and benefits ...get outside input and then check it out. LOS has the best input ....</p>

<p>One comment about the military. Regardless of how you feel about the current war. The militarie's long allegiance and support of the constitution is what makes us NOT one of the Coup deTat ridden third class countries of the world. That support includes going where the commander -in -chief, (civilian elected) send them. There is danger, but I woudl support your decision for yourself and for the strength of the country.</p>

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<p>have you ever felt that a person does not value life?
have you ever felt leaders should be overthrown or quarantined due to the lack of analytical and leadership qualities?
have you ever felt that those same unfit leaders are leading the group to someplace no one wants to be?
would we follow a commander if he were to develop a 4th Reich? </p>

<p>Theres a reason why the US is going downhill.</p>

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<p>This is a question about education and a job, not about your political philosophy. The cafe would be a better place to voice your opinion about the state of the US. The military is in place to "support and defend the constitution" and help accomplish the goals of the civilian government.</p>

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<p>I dated a guy who joined the army for the tuition money. Now he didn't join the Reserves, but while he was still in and coming back from Iraq, they were deploying some army joiners and army reservists as soon as they completed boot camp. I would be a little wary given the troop surge Bush is going to implement. But, weigh the pros and cons and see how you feel. It will definately give you discipline.</p>

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It will definately give you discipline.

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<p>Or disability benefits when they throw you out once you're not needed anymore.</p>

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<p>have you ever felt that a person does not value life?
yeah the people who value life are the anti-war democrats. while ~4000 soldiers have died in iraq(guess?) while 3,700 american babies die to abortion EVERY DAY! wow what pro-life people those liberal dems are...</p>

<p>have you ever felt leaders should be overthrown or quarantined due to the lack of analytical and leadership qualities? he was voted in by popular vote the 2nd time... tough luck blame other americans^^. he isnt as bad as people make him out to be.</p>

<p>have you ever felt that those same unfit leaders are leading the group to someplace no one wants to be? sometimes it is good to be someplace no one wants to be. i doubt many soldiers in the korean war, and i would argue south korea is a shining example of a good result of a terrible war</p>

<p>would we follow a commander if he were to develop a 4th Reich?
4th reich? get over yourself... george bush may be bad, but he is moderating out now. what i see him doing is much like the nixon expansion of war before negotiation/withdrawal. the surge may just be a temporary bargaining tool or long shot hope to improve the situation in iraq.</p>

<p>Theres a reason why the US is going downhill.
Absolutely. On one side we have conservative nutjobs, and on the other s ide we have people like you who somehow see Bush as the next Hitler. </p>

<p>Am I for joining Armed Forces?
If thats your thing, sure. It is a huge commitment and I would never join as I wouldn't want to become property of the United States, obliged to go wherever they send me. However, it is ridiculous the amount of military bias in this thread. </p>

<p>Just because your ANTI-BUSH doesn't mean you should be ANTI-MILITARY. For the most part military people I have met are actually against Bush, but they have the courage to keep their mouth shut in the face of a whining American society and do their duty(despite the questionable reasons for this war.) </p>

<p>Am I a Bush Fan? Absolutely not. I just see him as the lesser of two evils.</p>

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<p>Lol too bad i never made those precise connections. </p>

<p>you seem pretty angry ;[ cheer up dude:D are you having a bad time? </p>

<p>anyways what car do you drive?</p>

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<p>im not angry its just that calling bush the 4th reich is about the same in exaggerating as calling oprah the black female jesus. it's just ridiculous</p>