<p>So it's okay to vilify Jews and Christians, but don't you dare touch Muslims?</p>
<p>Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. To Jews, the holidays and the faith are the equivalent of the Prophet in importance. To say that they do something disgusting like kill children for matzoh is the moral equivalent of depicting the Prophet unceremoniously. It's a fundamental attack on Judaism and its tenets.</p>
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<p>No, I ddint say that. People can exercise freedom of speech and bash anyone: Muslims, Jews etc. But if you poke fun of a holy figure, you better expect violent protests and face the consequences. Religious offenses provoke violence, and this incident is one example of this notion.</p>
<p>You missed the most important point. To attack Passover is to attack one of the most holy and important things in the Jewish faith. It is qualitatively almost exactly the same as the cartoons.</p>
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<p>That doesn't make the violence right, nor does it mean that we shouldn't criticize it. Violence is NOT the answer.</p>
<p>Well, the Danish did expect a violent response, so its their fault to play games and start this mess. They knew the consequences, and thus they are more responsible for provoking the violence.</p>
<p>It's illegal to scream 'fire!' in a crowded movie theater. This case isn't so different... both start riots. ;)</p>
<p>You keep saying "The Danish" as if it was a national conspiracy on the part of Denmark to have these cartoons published. Last time I checked, it was the workings of an independent political cartoonist.</p>
<p>You, who always whines about "stereotyping" and "grouping" should be more careful.</p>
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<p>You, who always whines about "stereotyping" and "grouping" should be more careful.
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<p>Those cartoons wouldnt have been printed if the Danish people didnt resent Muslims. Like most big publications, only articles that appeal to the Danish will be printed by publisher. I have yet to hear the Danish protest the cartoons.</p>
<p>btw, stereotyping a nation is at least more precise than sterotyping the second largest religion in the world, as you have a habbit of doing.</p>
<p>I am 100 percent in support of your posts, UCLAri.</p>
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<p>Of course you are, you anti-Islamic freak. Refer to post #614 and provide an explanation to everyone.</p>
<p>JamesN:
"Those cartoons wouldnt have been printed if the Danish people didnt resent Muslims. Like most big publications, only articles that appeal to the Danish will be printed by publisher. I have yet to hear the Danish protest the cartoons."</p>
<p>When have you ever heard of the Danish protesting on a large scale?</p>
<p>"btw, stereotyping a nation is at least more precise than sterotyping the second largest religion in the world, as you have a habbit of doing."</p>
<p>Don't speak of habits, you hypocrite when you're the one who unapologetically over generalizes about the LARGEST religion in the world.</p>
<p>JamesN:
"Of course you are, you anti-Islamic freak. Refer to post #614 and provide an explanation to everyone."</p>
<p>An anti-Islamic freak... who happens to have apologised for all of his bigoted posts. So, maybe I'm not the freak but you are.</p>
<p>Oh for the love of God, you are an anti-Christian freak but you don't hear me ridiculing you for it.</p>
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<p>That's just plain silly. Newspapers are not all sold the same audiences!</p>
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<p>So what? Denmark has many different newspapers! It's got a free press, with probably thousands of newspapers! Just because a few of them published this doesn't mean that the whole nation agrees with it. Jeebus, look at how little the Danes can agree on political parties! They have more political parties than I have fingers!</p>
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<p>I've been lazy in a few posts, I agree, but I've tried to at least make a point of saying "Muslim media" or something more specific. Unfortunately, many of the programs I've been referring to are shown in both Arab nations AND Iran, so it's not accurate to say Arabs. Therefore, I have to revert to the much more general (and innaccurate) "Muslim media" label. But, I have not said that all Muslims buy this junk. I've said that Muslims (meaning, Muslim individuals) have propogated equally hateful material.</p>
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<p>I'm sure some Danes have told editors that the cartoons sucked. But in Denmark, people seem to be much more open to the idea of a free media, and seem far less willing to get uppity over things. Let's face it, hell hath no fury like a Muslim scorned.</p>
<p>well it's a shame to see that notihngs changed, however it's quite nice to see you both again. good afternoon gentlemen =)</p>
<p>now though i'm trying to remain uncontroversial and not take sides, i do feel the cartoons specifically singling out muslims was uncalled for, however the reaction that was received was just as irreputable.</p>
<p>oh and please do forgive my typing. i may type fast, however accuracy is most certainly not my strong point</p>
<p>baffledgenius89: Good afternoon to you too.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, JamesN and I have resumed our little brawl and as anyone can see he is just as stubborn and ignorant as always.</p>
<p>i find both of your behaviors on here quite amusing, but i must admit, i'm more intrigued then appauled. both of you are standing up for ideals and beliefs that you believe quite strongly in, theres something quite admirable about that.</p>
<p>amusing is an understatement, I can't believe I read this entire argument.</p>
<p>baffledgenius89:
Keep in mind that I don't stand by my early comments that JamesN posted.</p>
<p>everkingly, you've got a clean slate with me. =)</p>