<p>Keep in mind from 1999....</p>
<p><a href="http://www.umich.edu/%7Emrev/archives/1999/summer/chart.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.umich.edu/~mrev/archives/1999/summer/chart.htm</a></p>
<p>Above 100 means your in, 90-99 is waitlist, and anything below is reject.</p>
<p>This is ridiculous. With my instate and low income status, 33 ACT and good EC's, I am WELL over the required 100 with a 3.2-3.3 FREAKIN GPA!</p>
<p>Try out some combinations. You could have a truly horrible GPA and still get in with much room to spare if you did good on tests.</p>
<p>And thats another thing. Everyone knows a 35 is SO much more impressive/harder to achieve than a 31, yet they bunch all the test scores in that HUGE of a group? Essays worth 1 point? Alumni worth only 4 points?</p>
<p>I knew low income helped a little.....but 20 freakin points? That alone makes up for my GPA....as if I got a 4.0!!!!!</p>
<p>So my question is....</p>
<p>How much do you think changed?</p>
<p>A lot changed. There are NO points, now, for one thing. Essays matter more now, and there are more of them.</p>
<p>Most importantly, whoever gave you those admit/waitlist/deny parameters was wrong.</p>
<p>In any case, I don't see how it's instructive for people here to use an evaluation system that was eliminated three years ago.</p>
<p>They don't even use the point system anymore.</p>
<p>oooo i barely made it with a 102...lol</p>
<p>the biggest problem with it was the whole race factor which allows 20 freakin pts which is like worth more than SAT/ACT scores for cryin out loud...</p>
<p>Sorry, didn't know. I thought they still used the point system except they now eliminated the 20 points awarded for URM status.</p>
<p>Uh, no. After the Supreme Court case, Michigan went to holistic review with a three-reader system with more essays and no selection index.</p>
<p>lol, I'd have 11 points from legacies alone</p>
<p>How'd you get 11 points from legacy. The max you can get is 4 points ... even if both your parents, grandparents, siblings and spouses are all alumni. That's less than "man in nursing".</p>
<p>I think there is a more recent point system 'cause I remember the essay was worth up to 10 points.</p>
<p>No, for as far back as I've been involved with it, under the SI system the essay was always worth a very small potential amount. 1 point!</p>
<p>Actually the essay is worth up to 3 points, not 10 ... my memory is not what it used to be.</p>
<p>"The essay is an important portion of the application where students can communicate their unique personal histories and circumstances. Even though we only give 3 points (it used to be 1) for the quality of writing in the essay, the content of the essay may factor into many other portions of the admissions process." (<a href="http://www.umich.edu/%7Eurel/admissions/archivedocs/q&a.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.umich.edu/~urel/admissions/archivedocs/q&a.html</a>)</p>
<p>We both stand corrected, then. LOL I was looking my sheets from '98.</p>
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<p>I thought it meant 4 per parent (both of my parents attended) and one for siblings/gparents. (both on my dads side went and my grandma on my mom's side went.</p>
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Just out of curiosity, do you happen to know what the correct parameters were with the old point system?</p>
<p>I got my parameters from the news article in which it was featured.</p>
<p>I gotta dig it back up...</p>
<p>The process may have changed over time, but in the period before the lawsuits, the parameters were up for reassessment each time the U made admit decisions. Just like now, actually. The selection index was one "decision" made about an application, and the decision to admit, defer, deny, hold, waitlist, etc was a separate one. Same as now. </p>
<p>They drew the line, in any week or month, based on the applications received to date, on the enrollment targets, on preliminary yield indications, and so on. So, in October they might admit people at 109 but in November make it 105. Or vice versa. (I'm just throwing numbers out there as "for examples")</p>