The Most Important Questions For Humans - Debate - Question For Athiest - Origin Of W

<p>The most important questions for humans:</p>

<p>Where do you think the world came from and why there is something instead of nothing?</p>

<p>For atheists:</p>

<p>Evolution makes sense, and the big bang makes sense. I guess it all could kind of work out 1/1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000. But, when all the mass was in the big bang, where did it come from? Where did space, consciousness, life, the matter in the big bang, where did it all come from? The universe just made a bang and everything appeared. How did something come out of nothing? There was no such thing as something as there was nothing.</p>

<p>I'm a Christian and I believe that God started the Big Bang, which started Evolution and all. And that makes sense because God could create it. But then who created God? Well God was never created because he always was. As you see time in a line, God is in a circle and travels around the circle so fast that he is in all time at once. </p>

<p>That's my view. What's yours?</p>

<p>I don't see why humans are so concerned about other things, when this is the most important and curious matter facing humans.</p>

<p>Let's make this a friendly open minded debate. Everyone share!</p>

<p>How can nothing explode? Where did all that matter and energy come from? What caused its release? How did this explosion of everything (from nothing) order itself? How can simplicity become complexity? Where did the chemical elements come from? Where did the mathematical laws and physical properties come from? How do we explain the design, complexity and fine-tuning inherent in spiral galaxies, solar systems, and stars?</p>

<p>Also, what should we do with our life? Can I get some responses.</p>

<p>Your first post is just crazy. And I don’t mean crazy in the good way. I mean that you are just generating whatever nonsense comes to your mind.</p>

<p>Most of the questions in your second post have been studied and very solid answers are provided by physics. </p>

<p>Your third post reveals your motivation for these posts. Throughout history, people have generated arbitrarily complicated fictional realities of the world to satisfy their questions that they know means of answering. I personally think it takes a great deal of courage and strength to simply answer: “I don’t know.”</p>

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<p>Not a good start on the open-mindedness.</p>

<p>I’m not atheist, but I think the physics of big bang makes sense… I mean, there wasn’t always nothing, the universe always had the same amount of energy, right? And E=mc2 says mass and energy are equivalent, so yeah, in that sense, substance can come out of “nothingness” as you say. I think an average person needs God or a god for spiritual guidance, because physics can’t explain everything, but when it comes to believing the bible word for word, it starts falling apart. Most of it is metaphors anyway.</p>

<p>I beleive that there are somethings that we’ll just never know…</p>

<p>Ignorance is bliss.</p>

<p>Seeing as how it’s generally impossible to change people’s minds either way on the matters of creation/evolution/Big Bang/God, this is just another pointless discussion thread.</p>

<p>When you say “world”, do you mean “universe”? Because in a nutshell, planets came from various debris, which formed with the collision of heavier elements, which were formed from supernovae.</p>

<p>Conscience and life came from evolution. Space formed with the expansion of the the universe during and after the Big Bang. There was technically no mass during the initial explosion, since it began (theoretically) as an infinitely tiny space. </p>

<p>And the universe didn’t “just appear” following the Big Bang. All the initial explosion did (theoretically) was create the lighter elements. They drifted together, collided, and created giant gaseous clouds which eventually turned into stars. The process was sped along with the deaths of the stars, which created planets, which (in the habitable zones) fostered simple life. </p>

<p>Mathematical and physical properties are just abstract definitions of what always existed. It’s like asking where gravity came from. </p>

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<p>A star forms, and the worlds revolve around them. The core of a spiral galaxy consists of age-old stars, so the universe revolves around this giant cluster. Gravity.</p>

<p>As for what caused the original explosion, I have no idea.</p>

<p>IMO, we probably won’t be able to fully comprehend the origins of the universe in as satisfying a way as we understand gravity of the laws of motion. This is mainly because we’ve never experienced it and it occurred on such an epic scale that there’s no reason that evolution should have evolved us the ability to comprehend huge universal events. Basically, we understand really well the laws and events that are in everyday life that we are evolved to understand; ie: we deal with gravity every day, we deal with motion/velocity/acceleration every day but we’re not evolved to understand things outside of our “zone”.</p>

<p>So we’ll probably be able to understand the big bang eventually and might evolve an understanding of the concepts involved, but in my opinion most people wont be able to “get” what is going on. This is just like we have no idea what a fifth/sixth dimension would look like if we saw it because of the fact that we live in a three dimensional world (four with time). We have a general idea of what they would be, but can’t imagine what it was be like.</p>

<p>On a sidenote, the big bang is very well understood but with regards to the origin of all of the matter present in the big bang there is no reason that this should reasoned out to be placed by “god”. This is basically what has happened throughout history, humans place a god at the limits of their knowledge about the universe. Right now the beginning of the big bang is one of our limits of knowledge, therefore god gets shifted back and placed there, whereas before he was 6000-10000 years ago creating earth but is now back to the big bang. </p>

<p>It’s better to say “I don’t know, let’s try to find out” than “God did it”.</p>

<p>Honestly I don’t think this question can be answered properly with our current knowledge so that there would be undeniable proof that every sane human would understand.</p>

<p>^^To have that, we’d have to build a time machine and bring every single human being back to the moment the world came into existence to have them witness the truth. Otherwise, no evidence is going to convince everyone.</p>

<p>god i hate religious discussion</p>

<p>uh…nm</p>

<p>We are living in an illusion of 5 senses i.e. in 3rd density reality with our 10 pairs of DNA deactivated. Realize that everything that you see, touch, smell, etc. through your 5 senses is your perception as reality. String theory says that everything is made out of string i.e. vibrating energy. So, we are basically experiencing these strings (energies) through our 5 senses which for us seem like reality. But the truth is that we are living in a dream (illusion) which is experiencing by our souls. String theory or M theory has also predicated up to 12th dimension that means there are 12 densities of awareness in total. People are born in Earth for certain purpose and the common purpose for everyone is to evolve their souls to higher density or reality through collecting experiences and by polarity integration. </p>

<p>Question about your reality, question about Aliens, UFO, wars, spirituality, corrupt government, ghosts, global warming, everything that have been ignored. You will realize how your education system, government, religious institutions, and entertainment industries have manipulated and brainwashed your mind and your divine soul. Atlanteans self-destructed themselves because they were focusing too much in technology without caring much about spirituality or their true existence. They were the cause for Bermuda triangle and many other anomalies (for us) in this planet and solar system. Exactly same thing is happening to us right now and people don’t have a clue about it! Wake up people!!!
Knowledge protects, Ignorance endangers!</p>

<p>"But the truth is that we are living in a dream (illusion) which is experiencing by our souls. "</p>

<p>You have no way of knowing or proving that, just as I have to pay to prove the opposite. Therefore, there is no need to even discuss this.</p>

<p>Some good satire you’ve got there Porkey</p>

<p>It’s either that or ■■■■■■■■</p>

<p>I watched a video on string theory and it touched on the big bang. A physicist was talking about how our minds perceive time to be this constant, uniform thing, but that the concept of time is probably very blurred and that the question “what was there before the big bang?” probably wouldn’t make any sense with the real concept of time. We perceive time how we do since our brains need to view it as simple (as our brains are very simple), but it’s something entirely different.</p>

<p>“You have no way of knowing or proving that, just as I have to pay to prove the opposite. Therefore, there is no need to even discuss this.”</p>

<p>Do lil bit of research and practice meditation and astral projection. Stop pouring out your brainwashed, big brother controlled viewpoints! sorry.
Certain things are known through experience. Science cannot prove everything. If everything was provable then life and death would not be that mysterious or frightening to masses.
peace!</p>

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<p>Technically, science doesn’t really seek to “prove” anything. Read up on the scientific method please. An idea is tested over and over again and is never “proven” without a doubt, only strengthened more and more. If some test does not fit correctly with the event it is thrown out and the idea is probably tossed or modified.</p>

<p>And as to your specific point, I disagree. For the most part, science is the most logical method through which everything can be explained. Some things are not “proven” because they are either out of our reach of knowledge, such as the big bang (but that reach is coming closer), or because they are simply not that important to waste time researching on that could be spent on finding answers for bigger questions.</p>