The "New Ivies" information from this morning's Today show

<p>Just saw a segment on the Today show about this and thought it may be of interest to some of you. Here's the link to the MSNBC website. I think Lester Holt said the actual Newsweek/Kaplan magazine goes on sale August 21.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14325172%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14325172&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Interesting that most of the UAA schools made the list.</p>

<p>See yesterday's discussion at: </p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=225940%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=225940&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I just saw the show, and I believe that the TV segment came out better than the printed version, which suffers from an attempt to pretend to be well researched, and not the random selection that it is. The noble intent to educate viewers and readers about additional choices is, again, obliterated by the need to create A list. Very soon, every magazine and news provider in the country will have their own version with only subtle changes from the competition, including entirely ridiculous lists such as the ones published by the outfit that use Washington in their title. And nobody will be wiser!</p>

<p>What differentiates the schools are rarely found in headlines of rankings and lists--although USNews makes a great effort to explain their methodology. The devil is in the details. Lists and rankings that are not supported by verifiable elements remain highly questionable.</p>

<p>Albany NY TV is all abuzz RE: RPI and Skidmore being the next Harvard. </p>

<p>Next story is the untimely and accidental death of UAlbany President, Kermit Hall.</p>

<p>xiggi, I totally agree with you ( and sorry about the duplication of this- I obviously didn't see your original post from yesterday) I just wish they would share well-researched information on good schools without making references to attain a comparison in prestige. dudedad, what is UAA by the way?</p>

<p>KandKsmom, no problem with the duplication. I believe that it was opportune to refer to the thread "Who needs Harvard." Some of the weekend discussions do not get the traction they deserve.</p>

<p>UAA is University Athletic Association, composed of Brandeis, NYU, Rochester, Emory, CMU, Case, UChicago and Wash U.</p>

<p>Ah, yes, what used to be known as the Nerdy Nine. Who dropped out to bring the tally to 8?</p>

<p>The-daughter-I-never-had plays b-ball for one of the schools, and she says they really do put academics first. How refreshing.</p>

<p>RPI is a very good school and I was a grad student there. </p>

<p>Forget Harvard - If RPI becomes one of the top five technical universities I would be surprised. American marketing on its best, Sell the image whether reality exist or not. I wonder how continently they forget that there is so many players can be on top, so which school will go down Brown, Cornell or Columbia. How about WUSTL and Duke and similar school like Carnegie Melon, Purdue etc. These school will not relinquish their places technical standing so easily?</p>

<p>Skidmore wow that school use to exist in such a bad neighborhood. I do not know now.</p>

<p>Why does one school need to drop for another to rise? If it is a matter or rankings, there are plenty of ties. If it is a matter of education quality, then there are even more ties.</p>

<p>Feel good policy - every school is number one. </p>

<p>More people will leave MIT/Caltech to go to RPI. I am skeptical.</p>

<p>Skidmore it is no IVY. However I confused skidmore with other local college in capital district. Skidmore in Saratoga is a fine place.</p>

<p>amdgmom- Johns Hopkins was a founding member of the UAA, but does not participate anymore. they are now a member of the Centennial Conference.</p>