The Next President: Obiously We Know Who It Is

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<p>"it was NOT during the Pledge of the Allegiance, it was during the Star Spangled Banner, a completely different song."</p>

<p>This is quoted from you alipes... so why are you saying you never said Plege of Allegiance was a song?</p>

<p>And I said he refused to put his hand over his heart when the national anthem was playing (which you quoted me as saying) and you said no it was during the "Star Spangled Banner". I was just pointing out they are one in the same.</p>

<p>again, what am I missing here?</p>

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...so why are you saying you never said Plege of Allegiance was a song?

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<p>*Pledge</p>

<p>um...b/c I didnt, thats why it was placed at the end of the original sentence(to further contrast the difference). get back to me when you understand basic grammatical structure.</p>

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And I said he refused to put his hand over his heart when the national anthem was playing (which you quoted me as saying) and you said no it was during the "Star Spangled Banner". I was just pointing out they are one in the same.

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<p>I know they are the same, but in previous posts you stated:</p>

<p>-he has a problem saying the Pledge of Allegiance
-he didnt put his hand up during the Star Spangled Banner</p>

<p>^^^^this lead me to believe that either you mixed up the two or you doctored up the "problem saying the ..." charge. thats where I'm coming from.</p>

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<p>are you ppl STILL talking about the pledge/hand thing?</p>

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<p>alipes</p>

<p>posted by RatedPG</p>

<p>Quote:
...while the National Anthem was playing. </p>

<p>Quote:
...and has a problem with saluting the flag and saying the Plege of Allegiance. </p>

<p>this is not meant as an insult RatedPG, but.....please do a little research before posting such misinformed remarks.</p>

<p>Political Radar: Obama Says Flag Flap a Dirty Trick</p>

<p>it was NOT during the Pledge of the Allegiance, it was during the Star Spangled Banner, a completely different song. the latter does not require a raised hand, and it certainly is not a social custom/norm.</p>

<p>This is getting ridiculous. I think I was pretty clear in saying that obama would not salute during our national anthem and would not say the pledge of allegiance. Here you are saying that it was not during the pledge of allegiance it was during Star Spangled Banner. And that's exactly what I said in the beginning .... during the National Anthem.. during the Star Spangled Banner. This is the most frustrating forum....</p>

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<p>who are you guys talking about. give me the gist</p>

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<p>100% guarantee that McCain will be president if Obama is the Democratic nominee.
I have actual money on this, and I NEVER gamble.</p>

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<p>Obama will always have more support than Hillary</p>

<p>McCain will have a greater chance to win if Hillary wins the democratic nominee</p>

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<p>Many Republicans do not back nor even like Mccain because they think that he is too liberal. And I think that this divide within the GOP will give Obama a leg up in the race.</p>

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<p>No, it won't, because while they don't support McCain actively, come November they will vote for him. It's not like the more right-wing Republicans will vote for Obama or Hillary; the only thing that could hurt McCain would be if they didn't vote at all. But that won't happen. Between his Evangelical endorsements and the obvious self-interest they have in him appointing a good Supreme Court justice, they'll sure as hell vote for him.</p>

<p>More troubling I think is for the Democrats - will centrists vote for McCain or Obama? The reality is that McCain is closer to many centrists on a lot of policy issues, unfortunately. Could be interesting.</p>

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<p>McCain is too democratic to be considered a Republican but theres no doubt hes that he will get most Republican's vote</p>

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<p>It'll be a close race in the fall with plenty of mud-slinging. I predict Obama will win narrowly.</p>

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There are people who will vote for Obama (or Hillary, for that matter) just because he's a democrat; there are people who will vote for Hillary just because she's a woman; there are people who will vote for McCain just because he's a Republican-it all seems pretty blind to me... Btw, the people who watch BET are probably not the ones who go to the polls (no offense intended).
Obama isn't "black" because, hello!-his mother is WHITE. I think bi-racial would be a more fitting description... The black people I know come from America :p. I don't know of any black people who "refuse to admit that some part of their ancestry is based in Africa", but whatever... :/</p>

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<p>Months later, I stand by my original assessment. I had a swift feeling that Mccain might win for a very small time, but that feeling went away. I am clairvoyant, as I was right from the get-go when I started this post. I'm good in depicting these things. What are you going to argue against my thread? You cannot, the logic of my post is undeniable! Incontrovertible! So, Wait till January and then you'll see what I meant if you couldn't catch up sooner.</p>

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<p>I am a conservative and support McCain but I still feel that Obama will win this election, despite the "bradley" effect of Obama's race. He has remained calm and composed for the last several months and although I don't have him as my first choice for the presidency, I will be accepting of him and hope that he brings the changes that he promises. Lets hope for the best, no matter who wins because in the end, preserving democracy and our country is the most important thing.</p>

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100% guarantee that McCain will be president if Obama is the Democratic nominee.
I have actual money on this, and I NEVER gamble.

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<p>Hehe. </p>

<p>I believe the late, great Tommy Boy put it best:</p>

<p>"I can take a crap in a box and slap a guarrantee on it for you, if that's what you want."</p>

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Months later, I stand by my original assessment. I had a swift feeling that Mccain might win for a very small time, but that feeling went away. I am clairvoyant, as I was right from the get-go when I started this post. I'm good in depicting these things. What are you going to argue against my thread? You cannot, the logic of my post is undeniable! Incontrovertible! So, Wait till January and then you'll see what I meant if you couldn't catch up sooner.

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<p>even if obama wins, it still doesn't say anything about your "logic".
But yeah, obama probably will win.</p>

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<p>McCain is going to win. Mark my words.</p>

<p>ACORN, felons, homeless, pets, and corpses won't push Obama to the finish line.</p>

<p>Polling companies have been upping Democrats’ party ID to 50% in some polls, and dropping Republicans down to just 20%, with 30% Independent. If you look at this critically, you’d see that Democrats have never enjoyed more than a 4% historical party ID advantage. In 2006, a year that Democrats RAGED against both Bush and the sex-scandal plagued GOP (Mark Foley, Larry Craig, and other characters), Democrats had just a 3% party ID advantage.</p>

<p>Poo pah polls. After Clinton landslides, and riding off of the high of the 90s, Donna Brazile as campaign manager managed to botch Gore's election, the Democrats managed to lose 2004 even worse. In 2008, Brazile claimed impartiality but constantly wielded her leverage to blunt Hillary and blow Obama up. Obama's going to blow up. Not the way Donna wants to though :) </p>

<p>NEWSWEEK</a> Poll, Oct. 10, 2008 | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008 | Newsweek.com</p>

<p>*McCain winning Republicans, 89 to 7.
*Obama winning Democrats 91 to 5. (He's been lagging in Democratic support relative to other candidates in the past for as long as it has been, so either Hillary-Democrats have turned Independent all of a sudden, or they've gone gaga over him [unlikely considering the crushing defeats in FL, PA, MI, WV, AR, NJ, OK, NY, etc. and Hillary racking win after win after Wright)
*You have McCain winning independents by 2 percent, 45 to 43.</p>

<p>And this adds up to an 11-percent Obama lead in Newsweek's latest poll ?????</p>

<p>Some selective "weighing" there.</p>

<p>We are to believe that McCain is losing among women by 9 percent, but losing among men by 14 percent.</p>

<p>We are to believe that the Hillary voters are lining up behind Obama, 88 percent to 7 percent.</p>

<p>We are to believe Obama is winning 18 to 34-year-olds by 10 percent, but he is winning 45 to 64-year-olds by 16 percent.</p>

<p>We are to believe the white vote is just about even, 46 percent for Obama, 47 percent for McCain.</p>

<p>And we are to believe the electorate in November will be 27 percent Republican, 40 percent Democrat, and 30 percent Independent.</p>

<p>:)</p>

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<p>well everyone thought kerry would win and even gore before that...and they both ended up losing so who knows what will happen? i'm hoping for obama though...</p>

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<p>"McCain is going to win. Mark my words."</p>

<p>Will do.</p>

<p>Hey, if you want to believe all the polls are completely 180 degrees wrong, be my guest.</p>

<p>I mean, that's what John Kerry's supporters argued in the days leading up to Election Day - "yes the polls don't look good, but the polls are all wrong!"</p>

<p>Didn't work out so hot for him, but maybe it will this time.</p>

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<p>Mccain is a great guy, but I just don't think he will win. They call him an American Hero, and I agree that he is indeed one. a poster during the rep. campaign said, "american hero vs. american zero" pretty harsh. obama has kenyan roots, and he will be the first president to show that america is now finally a melting pot because we have pretty much sucked in showing that we are one (quoting my school official). :)</p>