The official 2009 APUSH after exam discussion thread

<p>DBQ was 3 something, maybe 4 pages… sounds like enough given the topic</p>

<p>FRQs were about 1.5, not that much to say unless I write incredibly small</p>

<p>*** a 7 page DBQ??? mine was 3.5 and i was sure mine of good, but then again it’s quality not quantity</p>

<p>WHAT!? a 7 page dbq? absurd.</p>

<p>mine was 4 pages. for the frq’s, one was 3.5, other was 3.</p>

<p>the general opinion in my school is that the MC was VERY easy.
expecting a 4 or 5 and i’m so happy :)</p>

<p>i finished 20 minutes early (!), i drew a picture of the revolutionaries,
and wrote a thank-you note, “thanks for reading my essay, sorry my handwriting’s illegible :(”</p>

<p>someone on this thread is screwed for talking about their specifc examples in the essays…</p>

<p>Now I’m freaking out. I didn’t explicitly state my documents, because I’ve been taught that you don’t have to. You mention the title and author and specific details from the document, but you don’t have to mention specifically Document A, Document B, etc. In fact, my Euro teacher last year reccomended that we DIDN’T do that. But now I’m reading here that I probably screwed myself over. </p>

<p>On FRQ #5, my brain was totally mush, and I neglected to mention names of court cases and legislation (I couldn’t remember them!!!) but I mentioned that they existed. How much will they take off for this? Can I still pull a 5 on the essay?</p>

<p>Is this really bad?
I only answered 49 MC because I didn’t want to guess on ones I couldn’t narrow down enough. I don’t think I got that many wrong since I didn’t guess much, but I also didn’t think the were that easy. And my DBQ (3 pages) was good, probably around a 7/8. I was running out of time, so I just tried my best to write a simple thesis and list facts on the FQR (I did 2 and 5; 1.5 pages and 1.3 pages respectively). I literally started part B, when my proctor said to start part C. I think I got some like like a 5 and a 3.</p>

<p>It is it possible to still get a 4 with a test like this?</p>

<p>ha damn 3-3.5 page frqs? wish I had that much to say/wrote that quickly</p>

<p>How important is length to the FRQs? For #4, I only wrote one page but my writing is small and it was filled with hard facts.</p>

<p>And I thought the DBQ was amazing. ^_^</p>

<p>I think my DBQ was 6 pages. My FRQ #2 was maybe 4, and #4, since I ran out of time, was 1.5.</p>

<p>A similar kind of thing happened last year on AP Euro - I wrote a massive DBQ (probably more than 7 pages) and two shortish FRQ’s, and I got a 5. So I didn’t feel too bad about using a similar strategy this year on APUSH. In fact I thought the MC today was extremely easy - I didn’t leave any blank (though I made an educated guess on several). I’ll be surprised if I don’t get a 5. Of course, the curves might be harder this year since the average MC score was probably higher than usual.</p>

<p>my handwriting isn’t that big, but i’m sure it’s much bigger than yours lawlroy :slight_smile:
i do write fast… heh. but yeah so the essays were great.</p>

<p>last year, when i took ap euro my handwriting was really neat at first… then it went downhill and it was full of ink smudges x). i didn’t really pace myself well at all and i didn’t even finish half of one of my frq’s. still got a 5.</p>

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<p>Of course it is. If you get them all right, or even if you only get say 5 wrong, you just need 7 or above on the essays to get a 5!! A 4, even less :]</p>

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<p>I’m mad into writing. I suck at multiple choice, so it usually evens out. I know history pretty well but if it’s in multiple choice format everything goes out of my head.</p>

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<p>See, with all the document quoting and the outside info you’re supposed to present, how can your DBQ be like only a page longer than your FRQs? D: I don’t get it. I do realize that my 2nd FRQ is a bit short, but it’s pretty solid and answers the question. Same with my 2nd FRQ–I’m more worried about the last one, even though it’s longer, haha. It’s cause I don’t think I used as much real historical references, rather than just analysis.</p>

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<p>I see. That’s an interesting strategy, I hadn’t though of that–this makes me feel happy because of my strategy?</p>

<p>I bet you write smaller than me though, so your amount of content is probably greater ;]</p>

<p>I actually think the MC curve will be pretty generous–from popular consensus, the MC was hard. Of course there’s a lot of questions everyone thought were elementary, but there was definitely a sizable amount that were challenging.</p>

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<p>If this thread and my school is any indication… probably not the case. </p>

<p>I got raped by AP Euro last year. I had an awful teacher. My first AP test ever and I didn’t exactly understand the concept of self-study. 90% of test takers in my school got a 1. Only one person got a 5. I’m pretty sure two people got a 4. NO ONE got 3’s. Personally, I got a 2. Not my proudest moment.</p>

<p>well, my handwriting was significantly smaller in the dbq then got messier.
but yeah, it’s relatively short compared to how much i’ve written in the frqs.</p>

<p>it’s because i knew both of the frq topics so well, and i’ve done research on #5 before, so i knew more than what was given in our textbooks :)</p>

<p>I usually wrote DBQs that were ~2.5 pages in class, and I thought I did well to get 3.5 today using super-speed writing. I don’t know how anyone can write 7 pages of anything in 45 minutes unless they spent more time on it… <em>Suspicious</em></p>

<p>I’m a little frustrated because there was a glare on the clock, and I was depending on the proctor to tell us when five minutes were left. This didn’t happen, though. I answered 57, and I think MOST of them were right. I wrote a beastly DBQ IMO, but my FRQs were a bit rushed. Still have a chance at a 4?</p>

<p>The MC was pretty easy. I think I missed around 7.</p>

<p>The only hard ones were the Arizona Supreme Court case and some weird question about an Elanor Roosevelt quote. </p>

<p>I was also unsure about the Pearl Harbor question. </p>

<h2>After the attack we immediately focused on Germany right?</h2>

<p>The Supreme Court Case was about Miranda rights, I guessed and got lucky.
What was the answer to the Elanor Roosevelt question.</p>

<p>Question from a mom: If your school requires a 4 on the test to give credit for the class is there any extra benefit for getting a 5? It still just counts as a Pass, right?</p>

<p>You guys deserve a great weekend for all this hard work! Hope you all get 5’s.</p>

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<p>And you’re pretty smart, right? :] So how does your school think it did on the APUS test, instead of Euro?</p>

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<p>Haha, lucky. I didn’t know much about any of them. :stuck_out_tongue: However, I do agree with the messy writing thing. As I get tired my hand writing gets bigger. If I notice, I make it smaller again, but it will crescendo again as time passes.</p>

<p>It’s a vicious cycle. Hehe.</p>

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<p>Don’t remember the first one, need more context, I thought the Eleanor question was simple.</p>

<p>And yes for Pearl Harbor.</p>

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<p>5’s look more impressive for college, though it’d be unofficial, because it’s not supposed to impact your college selection (Yes, strictly speaking, AP tests are only for placing out of courses…not like the SATs, etc).</p>

<p>Also, 5 5’s means you can be an AP Scholar, which is something only about 600-800 Juniors are every year, which IS something colleges will most likely look at.</p>

<p>Other than that, you’re right–if it’s only to pass or to get credit, a 4 is fine wherever it is accepted. However, make note that some schools ONLY accept 5s. Others don’t accept it at all anyways, so that’s another story.</p>

<p>Seven page DBQ? Impossible. I call shenanigans.</p>

<p>Anyway, picked essays 2 & 4. Events preceding the American Revolution = awesome, successes and failures of the labour movement = meh.</p>

<p>i did good on the MC i think, but only wrote mediocre essays probably (compared to others). i hate essays…my theses were really crappy</p>