<p>i’ll have a look now</p>
<p>SAT and ACT
USC requires either SAT or ACT scores (with the optional Writing test) from:</p>
<pre><code>* All freshman applicants attending high school in the United States (recommended for students in Canada)
- All freshman applicants who attend overseas American or international schools that follow the U.S. education system
- Any other freshman applicant who would like to be considered for merit scholarships
- Transfer students who have accumulated fewer than 30 transferable semester units since finishing high school
- For students who take the SAT more than once, USC records the highest scores for each section – Critical Reading, Mathematics, and Writing – even if achieved in different sittings. For students taking the ACT, USC will record the highest composite score.
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<p>SAT Subject Tests
We only require SAT Subject tests from freshman applicants who do not attend a regionally accredited high school (e.g., home school, some non-accredited parochial or community based programs, even some newer schools). These students must submit three SAT Subject exams, including one in mathematics. For all other applicants, these exams are optional, but recommended. We find them helpful in evaluating applications for merit scholarships. </p>
<p>so confused by it all, i think i may just ring up and ask for a concrete answer, if i email i just get linked back to the site…unless anybody on here can get their head around that!</p>
<p>I just googled it, and [International</a> Students - USC Undergraduate Admission](<a href=“http://www.usc.edu/admission/undergraduate/apply/inter_students.html]International”>http://www.usc.edu/admission/undergraduate/apply/inter_students.html)
looks like the key page.</p>
<p>It says that you only *need * the SAT1/ACT test, but elsewhere it is implied that the subject tests would be helpful, especially if you want to be considered for merit aid. Have you considered posting this in the USC forum?</p>
<p>will do, thanks :D</p>
<p>not after the merit aid though, does that make a difference?</p>
<p>If you don’t require any financial aid it may well work in your favour. But it’s still tough getting into a place like that as an international student. Do you have other places you want to apply to that are less selective?</p>
<p>My impression is that, in that case, USC won’t require subject tests. They could be helpful, but probably not worth it (unless you’re applying anywhere that does require them). As potuguese says, not requiring FA is a major advantage, admission-wise, but you’d still be well advised to apply to a wider range of places.</p>
<p>thats a great help thanks</p>
<p>im also going to apply to uc riverside, ucla doesnt do business :(</p>
<p>is cali state uni any good as another option do you know?</p>
<p>Glad to be of help.</p>
<p>I honestly don’t know about Cali State - you could try asking on their forum here, but bear in mind that most people reading it will be current students, and so (understandably) will be positive about it.</p>
<p>Just out of interest, is there any concrete reason (local family etc.) that you want to be in California?</p>
<p>none at all - just sick of england, need a change, visited NY but didnt like it, while doing research for college about abroad options i decided its for me 
if i go to uni, i wanna doit properly and get the best out of it, if i stay here and go manchester / lpool / leeds ill be home every weekend</p>
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<p>That’s not quite true. As with so many things in life, it all comes down to money. In most middle-tier British Universities foreign students are highly desirable as they pay full fees. In most middle-tier American universities, foreign students are highly desirable, but little or no money is made available to them. </p>
<p>Certainly a US institution has many more sources of funding to give FA to American nationals (eg. from the US government) than they do to foreign nationals. As a result, FA for foreign students is more expensive and often comes out of endowments or university unrestricted funds.</p>
<p>That is the primary reason that at the top tier, things get quite different. Given the increased expense of a foreign national, those schools which are academic-merit-blind for financial aid (which includes HYPM) tend to want to place a limit on the number of internationals, because they are more expensive. MIT has an explicit cap on the number of foreign students, Harvard and Princeton do not, however they end up with approximately the same percentage of foreign students in the class as MIT.</p>
<p>So the international admit rate for the class entering in September for MIT was 3.38% versus a US admit rate of 12.9%. That is a substantial DISADVANTAGE for internationals.</p>
<p>Fair enough - I stand corrected. I know it’s anecdotal, but I know a few people who’ve got in (with aid) to better colleges in the US than in the UK.</p>
<p>Hi everybody :)</p>
<p>Soooo, I’m gonna apply to the US for 2010 admission and I’m from London - UVA, Brandeis, Columbia…possibly Bard and Harvard and Northwestern. Just wondering if anyone knew:</p>
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<li>do they want 3 As, do you think?</li>
<li>do you reckon 4 A levels is better than 3? because over there they do like 15 subjects, right?!</li>
<li>what kind of sat scores do we need as internationals? surely not as high as the us students because we’ve not done the same curriculum etc…</li>
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<p>Thanks for any help!!</p>
<p>Kate</p>
<p>How come all the Americans here say i want to study in England? It’s very rude imo. Our country is called Britain.</p>
<p>My, oh my. There is no country called ‘Britain’. England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are the constituent countries of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.</p>
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<p>Just like there is no country called ‘America’ or the ‘United States’??? Britain is the countries name in day to day life so id d be obliged if people used it, and not ‘England’ in future.</p>
<p>Whilst there are four countries within the UK, and some British people choose to indentify themselves as from England, Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland within the union, on an international level we are British, from Britain.</p>
<p>So, am I allowed to join this thread? I’m American, but I just moved to Scotland to study at the University of Edinburgh.</p>
<p>I am currently very happy because I found a lovely duvet cover for only £8 today.</p>
<p>Spriteling you are more than welcome! This thread kinda died for a while but it looks like it’s back now. Edinburgh is so beautiful, I hope you enjoy it there!</p>
<p>I’m not in the least bit offended by people saying England instead of Britain. ‘America’ or ‘United States’ are shortened versions of the ‘United States of America’. That’s a country. England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland are also countries. Great Britain isn’t technically a country though, is it? It’s a collection of countries, England, Scotland and Wales. Then if you include Northern Ireland is becomes the United Kingdom. If you’re talking about Britain then you’re talking about the countries all together as a whole, but if someone is applying to colleges in say London, York and Warwick, then they are effectively applying to places in England. So the phrase “I want to study in England” is suitable.</p>
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<p>There is absolutely no difference between using America instead of the United States of America and Britain for the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland may be countries, but they are all one country too. So when Americans say they’re visiting/moving here it is inappropriate in my view to simply say ‘England’ even if thats where they’re going.</p>
<p>London is the capital of the United Kingdom, so no it isn’t suitable.</p>
<p>It is, but it’s also the capital of England. So if you’re going to London, you’re going to England. Yeah sure you’re also going to Great Britain/The United Kingdom. But you’re still in England. Like if you’re going to the capital of Scotland you’re in Scotland. Again, you’d still be in Great Britain, but you’re still essentially in Scotland.</p>
<p>What I meant by America and the US of A is that they’re the same thing. They’re both referring to the country.</p>
<p><em>shrugs</em></p>
<p>But the United Kingdom is one country. It just happens to be made up of 4 smaller countries and not 50 states.</p>