The rate of CCC students that transfer to a 4 year

<p>California Community Colleges Statewide</p>

<p>Student Right-to-Know Rates for Fall 2008 Cohort
Completion Rate: 24.64 %
Transfer Rate: 13.87 %</p>

<p>In compliance with the Student-Right-to-Know and Campus Security Act of
1990(Public Law 101-542), it is the policy of our college district to make
available its completion and transfer rates to all current and prospective
students. Beginning in Fall 2008, a cohort of all certificate-, degree-,
and transfer-seeking first-time, full-time students were tracked over a
three-year period. Their completion and transfer rates are listed above.
These rates do not represent the success rates of the entire student
population at the College nor do they account for student outcomes
occurring after this three-year tracking period. </p>

<p>Based upon the cohort defined above, a Completer is a student who attained
a certificate or degree or became 'transfer prepared' during a three year
period, from Fall 2008 to Spring 2011. Students who have completed 60
transferable units with a GPA of 2.0 or better are considered 'transfer-
prepared'. Students who transferred to another post-secondary institution,
prior to attaining a degree, certificate, or becoming 'transfer-prepared'
during a five semester period, from Spring 2009 to Spring 2011, are transfer
students.</p>

<p>so what.....only 13% of students transfer? lol</p>

<p>I thought universities get flooded with transfer applications and dont have space to let everyone qualified in, but this statistics says otherwise ONLY 13% MAKE IT. Especially since most UC transfers are 90% CCC students.</p>

<p>What do you think of this?!!!</p>

<p>Well, yeah, but there are a ton of CC students.</p>

<p>It looks like this study has several flaws:

  • doesn’t account for students who completed their 60 units at multiple colleges
  • doesn’t account for students who were initially full time but dropped to part time or took time off, so transferred after more than 3 years
  • doesn’t account for students who had rigorous majors or changed their major, taking more than 3 years</p>

<p>And most importantly, this seems to imply that the other 87% “failed” at transferring…when in reality, LOTS of CCC students change their minds about what they want to do after their first semester or year. Much more so than those that enroll at a 4 year. I have tons of CCC friends who decided that they didn’t want to transfer after all, and just wanted to take fun classes, or technical classes that may or may not apply to a certificate, or got a job that didn’t require a degree (like entry level sales) that looked promising.</p>

<p>The study is in agreement with plenty of other studies of CC students. For the motivated student the CC path can be an excellent bridge to a 4-year school, but the stats show that for the CC population as a whole this is a low probability outcome. Study after study comes to these same depressing conclusions. A 2008 study reports

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<p>Another study from 2011 followed students for 6 years and says

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<p>-doesn’t account for students who were initially full time but dropped to part time or took time off, so transferred after more than 3 years</p>

<p>This is where I fall.</p>

<p>Eh, in the greater scope of things I think a lot of people choose different paths in life than attending college. I find a lot of people hang around and go nowhere with their lives at my CC until they eventually dropout. </p>

<p>A lot of people wait to get their financial aid and drop all of their classes. I only saw that happen in my general education classes, though. </p>

<p>Not only is it becoming harder to get into college but it’s also becoming harder to graduate on time.</p>

<p>There are also a lot of CC students who never intend to complete a degree or certificate or transfer to a four year school. For example, some students attend CC just to take a course for personal interest, such as learning another language.</p>

<p>The truth is, there are many indecisive and unmotivated people at the community college level. As an alumnus of PCC, and someone who succesfully transfered to UCLA in two years, I knew what I was getting into when I decided to attend Community College. Unfortunately, many of my peers did not and this was what caused problems when they wanted to transfer to a UC or private without having the supporting credentials. Every year PCC is able to take on about 3o,ooo students and our transfer stats look something like this: about 1,6oo students transfer out per year, about 450 go on to a UC campus, about 1,ooo go on to a Cal State, and about 150 go on to a Private college.
UCLA and UCB get about 2o-25,ooo transfer applicants per year and at best will accept 5,ooo students, of theses applicants I would guess about 6o% are competitive applicants cutting that total to 12,ooo students in contention for acceptance. So what does this mean? Basically if you have a 3.7 or better, your IGETC done and/or your major pre-reqs completed you have about a 45% chance of being accepted to UCLA or UCB vs. the 20% chance every applicant has just by applying.</p>