<p>all i am saying.... is..... no one here is a college admissions counselor at an ivy/other top school... what might be a "reach" in your mind...can be a "match" in the admissions counselors minds.</p>
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all i am saying.... is..... no one here is a college admissions counselor at an ivy/other top school..
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Gaclass-
That is NOT true. there are many college counselors and admissions counselors from several schools (including MIT) on this site. You might want to dial down the arrogance a bit.</p>
<p>i'm pretty sure those counselors don't go on boards.... w/ the "reach" "match" "safety" concept.... that is just students and parents who over generalize..</p>
<p>Gaclass.-
You are wrong about that. Why don't you take a little time to read old threads on CC- you will find that there are a lot of college counselors who read this. In fact, a few parents recenly commented that they met admissions people at their kids schools who said they read these posts. Several college counselors routinely post on cc.</p>
<p>listen to my words.... they might post.... BUT they do not post and tell ppl the "reach, match, safety" concept.</p>
<p>Why don't you start with many of BenJones's posts? He is an adcomm from MIT. IF you come to CC with reasonable questions, you can learn a lot. If you come on to tell everyone they are wrong... well.. good luck with that.</p>
<p>Gaclass,
Here's but one example of someone who didn't balance their applications and now has nowhere to go <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=356605%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=356605</a>
Go back and read all the heart-wrenching posts by Andi, whose very qualified s got rejected from everywhere 2 yrs ago (I think thats when it was). What people are trying to say, politely, is that the Ivy's and many of the top schools are considered "reaches" for everyone, unless you are a recruited athlete or something. There are no guarantees. You have to be realistic in this process.</p>
<p>the OP of that thread said:
"It is plainly rude to tell someone they aren't qualified- the only way to get anywhere in life is to try. </p>
<p>Peace be with you."</p>
<p>and the guy can't write essays or on time.... that's his problem..... if he did the safety match reach thing.... no one could've predicted his procrastination/bad writing skills anyways</p>
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listen to my words.... they might post.... BUT they do not post and tell ppl the "reach, match, safety" concept.
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<p>Where do you think the concept comes from?....College counselors. </p>
<p>GA, what exactly do you propose as the solution to this "problem"? Never estimate anyone else's chances on this forum when they ask? When assessing someones chances never say a school is a reach? Both of which would make the chances threads go from potentially inaccurate to completely useless.</p>
<p>Ga-
With all due respect, you are the one who isn't listening. Read about andi's son. He did everything right, was very qualified, and didn't get in. And there are many others like him. If you think you are guaranteed admission to a bunch of the top schools, good for you. I hope you don't have to come back here nest spring eating humble pie.</p>
<p>Just curious- where in GA are you? Do you go to a public or private school? And what are your SAT and SAT II scores?</p>
<p>i say eliminate the reach.... go ahead say match say safety....but reach??? nothing is a reach....unless u let it be.....if u keep up grades, get involved in community....ect...ppl should be fine.</p>
<p>there was that study i saw on 20/20 where ppl where told when someone would tell someone they were inferior or some other non-encouraging thing... the person would perfrom worse on test.... and if they said something good... they did better..... how about instead of "Reach" say: "go for it, or give it a shot"..... it's less rude.... and more optimistic</p>
<p>i live near UGA..i used to live even closer a couple of years ago..public school</p>
<p>but it would be dumb 4 anyone smart or dumb... to apply to only ivies or top 10 ranked schools... u have to apply to some ranked from 11-90 according to us news.</p>
<p>ga-
The term "reach" can be interpreted in many ways- "reach for the stars" is a positive view. Thats how I like to think of it. No one is saying don't try, because you never know. The terms are used to help people make educated, reasoned plans. A reach school is a school that may be difficult to get into for any of a variety of reasons. Chill.. I think you are overreacting</p>
<p>i don't mean my statement was from us news... i mean the rankings from us news.</p>
<p>but ppl say..... "reach" "big reach" i don't see the positive in that"</p>
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<p>You obviously haven't been through the application process or know many people who have. Valedictorians get rejected from the ivies left and right.</p>
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i saw on 20/20 where ppl where told when someone would tell someone they were inferior
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<p>Here's the issue: you interpret telling someone a school is a reach as an insult. It isn't. It's just a qualitative term for describing a situation in which a person's chances of getting in to a school are somewhat low. Most people don't take it personally -- I suppose you are one of the exceptions.</p>
<p>Ga-
You are getting into semantics. But, if a person with a 3.1 GPA and 1100/1600 SATs with no hook applied to the Ivys, I'd call that a big reach!</p>
<p>what is "hook"......ellaborate in ur own meaning plz.... let me show u one:</p>