<p>is 2260 with 680 in critical reading + 3.993 GPA (one A-) good enough for HYP consideration while in a school of 300 with 5 people having 2300+ SATs and 4.000 GPAs?</p>
<p>In other words, do schools look at applicants at a local level or national level? I come from a competitive public school, so would my standing as number 6 in 300 hurt or benefit me, so to speak?</p>
<p>coola troopa, that isnt necessarily true. the results may have been negatively skewed by legacies/ athletes. a median score might be a better assessment than an average-- i have reservations as to any "un-hooked" candidate applying with under a 2200.</p>
<p>I had a 2310 (1590 on verbal/math). I'm also a double legacy, but I haven't noticed any real difference between my scores/stats and those of other students.</p>
<p>I would retake if your score is below 2200, but in general it's much more important to focus on showing your intellectual curiosity through grades and ECs.</p>
<p>Ok, so you said you were an athlete, and your SATS weren't very good. ( I'm not familiar with SATS because I'm still in highschool). Are you going on an athletic scholarship? Are you an amazing athlete and so your marks aren't very important. Or were your markls in higshcool soo good that your SATS were unimportant. Also, what marks do American Universities look at, do they look at grade eleven marks because some of mine aren;t very good because I had a jerk teacher...</p>
<p>what happens when you take like lets say, 5 SAT II tests. and completely tank on 2 of them, lets say like 500's, and then ace the other 3 - lets say like 700+..</p>
<p>Princeton and most other schools only require 2 or 3 Subject tests, so what happens to the other 2 that you bombed? They still get sent to the schools, so are they considered as well, even though they only require 2/3? Or do they only consider you top 2 or 3 SAT II'S?</p>
<p>EDIT: Sorry for bumping this up - didnt see the post dates, but does anyone have a clear, definitive answer for this?</p>
<p>Extremely important. Looking at my school's Naviance charts (showing the GPA and SAT scores of all Princeton applicants from my school in last few years), you don't get in with a score lower than 2300. Seeing as the sample isn't very high, I'm sure you could lower that to 2250 or MAYBE 2200. One kid is really far away from the others with like a 2150 score, but I'm almost certain that I know who that kid is and he's black.</p>
<p>I don't know how that worked out, because even just being black alone does not cut that I don't think. I feel like he could have been a football recruit...</p>
<p>Anyway, for those that are recruited athletes and those that are affirmative action minorities, they are on a whole different (easier) playing field imo</p>
<p>Yeah, I am pretty sure he was a recruit, but I still cannot believe it. He came back for Christmas complaining about how hard Princeton was; he even said they'd proabably eventually find him cheating (I took that to mean that he hasn't cheated yet but probably will) and kick him out. I was a little furious that he got in so easily and didn't even care about the academics.</p>
<p>please dont say athletes are on a whole easier playing field. Academically it may look like it but you got to remember if a kid is a college recruit the sport is his life, pretty much all year around.</p>
<p>visionquest09 - that depends on a lot of things, especially the sport. If you're getting recruited as a gymnast or dancer then hey, I'm not gonna knock you because that probably is your life. With other sports and other people though - look, I've known recruits and I've practiced with recruits too man - it's a sure lot easier than getting A's (at my school) and a 2400. And if it's not easier, then at least it's more fun. Goddamn I would so much rather being doing my favorite sport 20-30 hours a week rather than have to focus on academics.</p>
<p>Also of course, I know a lot of people who aren't even that into a sport and get recruited. Like the couple football recruits at my school - they play during the year and probably do a summer camp, but that's it.</p>
<p>^^^sorry i was tired when i wrote that and not gonna lie mad at some things (not CC related lol)</p>
<p>i will freely admit that some athletes do sometimes walk through life cause of there athletics that they only do for 4 months out of the year. It just that when someone mentions athlete i take it kinda personal, usually logic saves me but like i said i was tired.</p>
<p>my brother got into princeton with a 2030 SAT. no hooks at all. our family is high-income and white. if princeton really wants you they'll take you, as long as your scores are decent.</p>
<p>i wanna throw in a plug for athletes here since the topic has come up, my being an athlete. specifically, i'm a swimmer and i've put in 10 practices a wk and thus 23+ hrs of practice a week, 48 wks a yr since the week after i finished 8th grade and started hs training. and that doesn't include meets or anything, that's purely the time spent training. i was a multiple time all-american AND first in my class. the athletic side was definitely a heck of a lot harder than excelling in academics. </p>
<p>a classmate of mine is in as a soccer recruit and he may not have had straight A's but he did well academically and definitely deserves it. i on the other hand skipped the recruiting process due to unusual circumstances and am thus a normal applicant.</p>
<p>so some athletes get in by working their a$$es off and doing solidly academically while you try to get in by studying. if it were easy to be a great athlete then such applicants wouldn't have any advantage.</p>
<p>don't discredit the work that athletes put in to be great at what they do.</p>