The ultimate question: 2pac or biggie?

<p>Who's the better rapper? I'm going with 2pac. All eyez on me, thugz mansion, ghetto gospel, changes, and pain are all better than any biggie song I ever heard...and nasty girl was a crappy song.</p>

<p>a better question: which one of them is more overrated?</p>

<p>Do you like Jay-z? I hope not.</p>

<p>Although the full meaning of rap is rhythm and poetry and I find 2pac to be more of a poet than Biggie, I have to go with Biggie. Biggie's rhythm and rhymes are waaaaaay better than 2pac's. Personally, I feel if your song has a great rhythm, it overrides beats or poetry anyday. However, I also like 2pac's songs because they actually have meaning, something that seems to be lacking in today's rap songs. Some contemporary artists that I would compare to 2pac are Common, Mos Def and Talib Kweli. I would say Kanye West but he's just a poser.</p>

<p>@HoldenMCaulfield: What would you know about rap? J.D. Salinger made you out as a psychotic teenager who was kicked out of boarding school.:)</p>

<p>tupac.....</p>

<p>Tupa all the way damn. I heard Biggie a few times, and the few times I heard him in Tupac collabs or Diddy remixes they were wack as hell.</p>

<p>Mos Def and talib Kweli been around a long time. Tupac kills Common in the rhythm section, cuz Tupac's rhytmn was incredible.</p>

<p>Kanye West has good rhytmn and okay lyrics, so he's not a poser. He's a hip hop producer, since if you listen to just rhytmn then obviously you need to listen to the D12 track "*****es"</p>

<p>Kamikazewave, first of all, I doubt you've heard a substantial amount of Biggie's songs to actually offer an unbiased opinion. Secondly, I'm not saying 2pac is better than Common, I'm just saying they are somewhat similar in rhythm and style. Thirdly, YES, Kanye West is a poser and there's absolutely no way to disprove that. Think about it, "Diamonds", to the untrained ears, you would probably think this song was actually criticizing purchases of diamonds which promotes holding slaves captive in Sierra Leone for digging in the diamond mines but the song was actually about his feud with the Rocafella between Jay-z and Damon Dash. Read the lyrics again and tell me if any part of the songs except from the chorus actually has something to do with the diamonds slave trade. Personally, I think he was utilizing a very serious issue as a means of expressing frivolous matters such as the awards incident.</p>

<p>I'm from Africa and I find that very offensive.</p>

<p>I'm from the westcoast and I still say BIGGIE... I LOVE IT WHEN THEY CALL ME BIG POPPA!!</p>

<p>Yeah...penn_dreamer have you listened to the remix of diamonds? He claims to love roc-a-fella again.</p>

<p>That said, his best song (Jesus Walks) wasn't even written by him...</p>

<p>There is no Biggie song better than "A long time ago" by 2pac. Sorry. Game over. If you heard that song you know why it's so awesome ;)</p>

<p>2Pac, biggie had other girls sign his hooks, and 2pac (in a comepletely hetrosexual way) is a lot sexier. He was in shape, big wasn't. And Sean combs changes his name too much.</p>

<p>Biggie always sounds like he's eating something when he raps ROFL</p>

<p>Why pick? unless you're really west/east territorial and ****...which in that case you couldnt listen to like krs and kane at the same time</p>

<p>not that they weren't good or anything, but i don't prefer either of them. i'd have to pick tupac if someone put a gun to my head. and obviously the fact that both were killed added to why everyone associates them as the greatest. i'm not saying they were or weren't, but i just think people exaggerate in certain respects. then again, no matter how good an artist is in any genre, i just have a problem with worshipping them as much as others do. but hey that's just me. an i don't really think it's an "ultimate" question either.</p>

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Thirdly, YES, Kanye West is a poser and there's absolutely no way to disprove that. Think about it, "Diamonds", to the untrained ears, you would probably think this song was actually criticizing purchases of diamonds which promotes holding slaves captive in Sierra Leone for digging in the diamond mines but the song was actually about his feud with the Rocafella between Jay-z and Damon Dash. Read the lyrics again and tell me if any part of the songs except from the chorus actually has something to do with the diamonds slave trade. Personally, I think he was utilizing a very serious issue as a means of expressing frivolous matters such as the awards incident.</p>

<p>I'm from Africa and I find that very offensive.

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oh my god thank you. i thought i was the only one who ever noticed how blatantly obvious this is. all i hear is people talking about "oh kanye great. he raps about jesus and the diamond situation." ugh.</p>

<p>i watched an interview w/ kanye about a year ago in which he himself admitted that he DIDN'T EVEN KNOW about the blood diamonds situation at all when he wrote "diamonds". one of his fellow rappers told him, so he changed the title to "diamond (from sierra leone)" and said like 2 lines about it and them raps about crap that has nothing to do with africa and only with himself. i don't really like kanye at all as a person. i admit his songs and what he produces for other artists is catchy and at time good, but he's a shady dude.</p>

<p>biggie hands down</p>

<p>listen to ready to die. the lines in this album are so sick. tupac had more commercial success because of his appearance compared to biggie's. biggie's freestyles are also some of the best. compare those tupac songs you mentioned to biggie's best not to songs like nasty girl (which i don't think is bad but biggie has better songs)</p>

<p>GIMME THE LOOT GIMME THE LOOT</p>

<p>great chorus right there.</p>

<p>the great thing about biggie was that even though he was fat, out of shape and just plain ugly, he still got the ladies.</p>

<p>Tupac for artistry, Biggie for entertainment.</p>

<p>Tupac hands down</p>

<p>Neither, Nas all the way</p>

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