<p>congrats on taking an intentionally extremist view of what I said, you'll fit in quite nicely with the other republicans in the financial set you hope to join.</p>
<p>Additionally, I am not nor have I ever been a liberal arts major, so I don't know where you get the idea that I'm so overwhelmingly in love with the idea of a liberal arts education. Though I very much disagree with you that a liberal arts degree has 'no practical value.'</p>
<p>Furthermore, I think the reaction to the 'trade school' comment only further evidences the superiority complex. The comment was meant to underscore that it is a very self-selected group that applies to wharton in the first place. In fact, it is a school that teaches you a highly specialized set of skills that are directly applicable to one's future career-sounds like a trade school to me. For that matter one could say the same for med school, law school, etc. It's the refusal of the whartonite to be thought of in the same sense as a carpenter that is telling.</p>
<p>Go tell a med school or a law school student that they are attending a trade school and read their reaction. I doubt they'll accept what you're saying any more than a Whartonite would.</p>
<p>A person pursuing a PhD in econ will happily tell an MBA that they're in a vocational school. As a probable econ major, I'll happily call Wharton Ivy carpentry (as quoted from JCo).</p>
<p>In the end, the whole Wh Superiority complex is just something in the head that has practically has no value. The entire undergraduate student body has access to most of the "business" recruiting that Wharton offers for its undergraduates.</p>
<p>^thanks for the #'s above - that really does clear things up. So we have accept rates at Penn ranging from ~26-28% (Eng, Nursing) to 9% (Wh.) with College in between at 16% - in your view does this have ANY implications for the quality of the different schools? Can you draw ANY conclusions from the above #'s?</p>
<p>for example, nursing received only 10% of the number of applications that wharton did, and so it must necessarily have a higher admit rate to fill all of the places in the program.</p>
<p>and penn nursing is ranked in the top 3 for just about every nursing speciality indicator tracked by us news.</p>
<p>there is currently a generational "bubble" going through the college application process; the number of applications all around will decrease somewhat in the coming years - a higher admit rate resulting from the lower number of applications received will not be indicative of a decline in quality.</p>
<p>admit rates would be a better indicator of quality if the size of each program were the same, with the higher number of applications to one program or another signifying higher demand --> better quality.</p>
<p>also, you cant use those numbers to make an judgements about salaries. while engineering may a relatively higher acceptance rate, it has a higher average starting salary than "more selective" schools like SAS... really, the quality of a school should be measured more on what its graduates do than how many people the school rejected.</p>
<p>I'm seeing contradictions that sound like rationalizations - one person said before that Wh. has lower admit rate than Col. because Wh. is small. Then someone else said Nursing (which is smallest of all) had higher admit rate because it gets very few applications (duh) - but WHY does Nursing get so few apps?</p>
<p>The truth is that Wh. has a low admit rate (as low as HYP) because it is in high demand right now. What is this demand based on? Not starting salary (Nursing is higher) but lifetime earning potential. Nursing, Eng. all start off with high starting salaries but then you go absolutely nowhere, whereas for Wh. the sky is the limit.</p>
<p>Percy Skivins, you had earlier posts were always full of good advice and now...you seem like one of those idiot self absorbed people. A perfect example of the Wharton Superiority Complex. </p>
<p>As for nursing, many top students don't chose it as a career. The nurses working at our hospital are community college grads. I doubt they would have been able to get into Penn. My (Asian) parents would have killed me if I applied to nursing school. Most top students interested in the medical field usually get a liberal arts degree and go on to med school. So less top students interested in the medical field apply. </p>
<p>For engineering, I think I banking is doing heavy recruiting from there. Engineering kids can get the engineering education that the ibanking firms are looking for and still take wharton course. A perfect combo. Isn't that where all the wharton grads go--ibanking? Other Penn engineers usually end up at grad school--law or medicine. If I am able to get my engineering degree, I doubt I will ever become a professional engineer. Probably med school for me since all my cousins are in med school or are doctors. </p>
<p>And other people has brought this up. Many CAS students have the talents and test scores, GPA, etc. to go to Wharton. But they aren't interested. If you look through this year's acceptance threads you will find many kids getting into Wharton without breaking the 2000 SAT score mark. </p>
<p>So I think it is stupid for wharton students to feel that way. They are getting a great education and so are the rest of the kids at penn. I doubt there are many of these students with whartonite superiority complex at penn.</p>
<p>Nursing and Engineering are probably the most self selected applicant pools at Penn. </p>
<p>Wharton tends to have many kids at the HYP level apply just because it is a very high ranked program in the Ivy League that feeds into Wall Street. Wharton is the only business program they apply to and they apply to the rest of the Ivies and top 10 schools. Notice the Harvard vs Wharton or Yale vs Wharton threads, but non existent Stern vs Wharton or Sloan vs Wharton threads?</p>
<p>If right now I knew my goal was to work at an investment bank, I would probably be an applied math major at Fu instead of getting a business major at Wharton because I'd like to learn something remotely interesting to me.</p>
<p>Wharton tends to have many kids at the HYP level apply just because it is a very high ranked program in the Ivy League that feeds into Wall Street. Wharton is the only business program they apply to and they apply to the rest of the Ivies and top 10 schools. Notice the Harvard vs Wharton or Yale vs Wharton threads, but non existent Stern vs Wharton or Sloan vs Wharton threads?</p>
<p>do you know what's a huge advantage in undergrad business, it's that we can choose to study law, or whatevr, in grad school and get an opportunity that lib. arts majors never got: a taste of business and law in two separate environments.</p>
<p>Also what's the avergae starting salary for Nursing. I know wharton is 56k without bonuses(average not median). and the 25 -75 percentile is 30k-100k I think. That's what I understood from the penn previews for the range, and ive seen it documented for the average salary.</p>
<p>But also, I don't feel superior than those at the college and engineering. I do, however, feel that a wharton degree is more valuable for my goals (and i dont plan on getting an MBA, but may get a JD) and there's nothing arrogant in thinking that. </p>
<p>And we also all know (we may not want to say it) that wharton has a bigger name than the college, so those who go to wharton do feel that there's a little extra prestige in the wharton name and are proud of it (for whatever that's worth), but it doesn't mean that we are superior or think we're superior. I'd also like to note that I think that CAS and engineering are really underrated and I will fight to the death( in reality probably not to the death) defending the name and reputation of those departments. Remember I said wharton was more prestigious, not necessarilly better (like ive said before, it depends on interests and particular goals)</p>