<p>I just go screwed in college admissions...I was rejected from Duke, Rice, Cornell, Northwestern, Brown. I was waitlisted at Vanderbilt, Emory, WashU. My only acceptances are my state schools...</p>
<p>These were my high school stats: 2180/2400, with a 1480/1600..I had a 3.8 unweighted gpa with a 4.2 gpa...I also have taken 10 A.P.s with 6-7 honors classes out of 28 total high school courses (thats 17 advanced classes/28 total)</p>
<p>If I worked hard in high school and still got screwed by undergrad programs that have a 10-30 percent acceptance rates, what am I going to do with medical school. Even If I do go to my local state school and work just as hard as I did in high school, I probably will still get screwed by medical school admissions because they have a 5 percent acceptance rate....</p>
<p>I am seriously thinking about going to the Carribean specially St. Georges Medical School straight from high school, Do my pre-recs(college work) for 2 years there, then 2 years of med school there(first 2 years of medical school), and then 2 years of clincial work back in the U.S(3rd and 4th year of medical school)......then do my residency and internships....</p>
<p>The reason I applied to so many top schools is because they all have very high pre-med acceptance rates(80 + premeds go to medical schooL)...So I knew if I worked hard there, I would have a reasonable chance at A medical school(I don't care which one, just ANY 1 medical school)....Even state medical schools have a 5 percent acceptance rate for in-state students....</p>
<p>Has anyone gone to these schools or know anything about them???</p>
<p>Rather than going to your state school for undergrad, you’re considering going to the Caribbean for undergrad and medical school? That doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. The off-shore medical schools will still be available after undergrad if you don’t get into an allopathic school in the US (and so will DO schools). It’s not easy to get into a US residency program from a non-US school, and you’d be severely limiting yourself by deciding now (without any indication of how you’ll do over the next four years).</p>
<p>Regardless of what state you’re from, it’s not exactly like no one ever gets into medical schools from state schools (and some state schools are fantastic). Just because you were burned by the undergraduate admissions process doesn’t mean that you’ll be burned again in medical school admissions.</p>
<p>More importantly, a quick perusal of his posting history indicates a couple of things. First, the college process was NOT unpredictable. Second, he’s a Texas resident, so “only” my state schools might well include UT Austin.</p>
<p>^^^ I didn’t apply to UT Austin, I applied to Texas A&M and Baylor…</p>
<p>what do you mean the college process was not unpredictable…</p>
<p>I don’t know, I have heard a lot of people who come from carribean, the uk, canada, australia, and medical schools are able to do well on usmle as long was they prepare for it…</p>
<p>About UT Austin, I know a girl who went to UT Austin with a 1500/1600 sat score, she scored a 32 on the mcats, and had a 3.95 gpa there…and she didn’t get into any medical school she applied to (all of her schools were state medical schools of Texas)…she now works as a Dental Assistant (works at my mom’s office)…</p>
<p>I know 4 people who went to A&M(1 of them is my cousin) and couldn’t get into any medical school either, they ended up in the carribean…I just don’t want to end up being the kid who can’t get into ANY med schools in 4 years…My counsin, who went to (St. George’s med school, in the Carribean) came back and did relativly well on the USMLE, and was offered a residency program in Florida…</p>
<p>the other thing: it is easier to score a 1480/1600 and a 2180/2400 than it is to score a 32+ on the mcats, its easier to have a 3.8 unweighted gpa in high school than it is to have a 3.5 gpa in college…This is why I am worried I will do bad in college, and get screwed over by medical school admissions, and even if I make the scores and get the gpa, and particpate in research along with ecs, what if I still get screwed over like the girl who went to UT Austin…</p>
<p>statwise, your fine. it was probably your essays or your ecs that screwed you over. go to A&M or baylor and work your butt off. you’re lucky you live in texas. and apply DO if you must.</p>
<p>If she only applied to the UT medical schools (there are only 4?) then that’s your answer right there. Applying to so few schools is almost certainly a recipe for failure.</p>
<p>While individual med school acceptance rates are in the 5-10% range, you have an overall 45% chance of getting into a US med school (even higher if your stats are decent). Any US med school would be better than SGU and you will always have the chance to go to SGU later on as a regular applicant. I think right now you are disappointed in your college decisions and it’s affecting your judgement.</p>
<p>At one time, I read from a pdf file posted by Texas A&M that many Texas A&M students who are admitted to state medical schools maintain very high GPAs. (I hope I can locate that source again but can not.) There are over 10 students whose GPAs are 4.0. I am wondering whether this is a phenomenon for that particular school only, or so many students in Texas have such high GPAs? I had the impression that at least at my school, 4.0 is extremely rare.</p>
<p>The girl I was referring too, applied to all the UT schools, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, pretty much every public medical school in texas…</p>
<p>The way I see it is, if I am going to end up at SGU anyway, why wait until then, when I could do it right now, why stress out over the MCATs, and then when I do score well, stress out over wheather or not I can get into a Med School…all that stress for nothing…Its sort of like high school, I could have just scored a 2000 and gone to A&M and baylor instead of stressing out over the SATs, gpa, and then wheather or not a top school will take me…all the work and stress for nothing…</p>
<p>Well, the competition doesn’t end here. Get used to it. You will have to compete for a residency (and the competition will be harder for you if you go out of the country), fellowship, etc as well. You shouldn’t just take the easy way out because you didn’t apply broadly enough with your scores to college and “only” got into your state schools. And you don’t know where in the world you’re going to end up. You may do fabulous on your MCATs and achieve a stellar GPA and then, you will almost definitely (it’s never 100% no matter what your app looks like) end up at a US medical school. It’s all about where you apply. If you apply to only the top 10 med schools, even with great stats, there’s a good chance you won’t get into a single medical school! So then again, you will complain about how awful the application process and how you got royally screwed, when meanwhile applying to a range of schools would prevent this.</p>
That’s not nearly enough. Applicants generally apply to 15 medical schools or so before they feel comfortable with their chances. With a score like a 32, I’d have advised even more applications.</p>
<p>And besides which, you shouldn’t go to SGU “anyway.” If you don’t get into medical school after four years of undergrad, you should either strengthen your application and try again, apply to a different kind of school (either DO or NP or something), or find another career.</p>
<p>More importantly, in the above discussion, you left out some of the information that would make it clear you didn’t get “screwed” by the undergraduate admissions process – in fact, it went exactly as any reasonable observer would have predicted. And even besides that, what really “screwed” you over was your inexplicable failure to apply to UT Austin.</p>
<p>I know it’s from the post above me, but just because it’s exactly correct, I’m going to repeat it:
<p>All rite, these are the schools I applied to: Brown, Cornell, Rice, NU, Duke, WashU, Emory, Vanderbilt, Boston College, A&M, and Baylor…I know there were a lot of reach schools, but I felt confident about A&M, baylor, Boston College(I got waitlisted here too), and Emory(they don’t look at class rank)…</p>
<p>You said you looked through my other posts, which means you saw my chance threads on dartmouth, columbia, and upenn----I did not end up applying to these…</p>
<p>In retrospect, I should have applied to USC, NYU, Tufts, Georgetown, and Notre Dame…instead of Duke, Cornell, and Brown, NU, and WashU</p>
<p>The bad news is that you screwed up with your college applications. You’re not a victim - you did this to yourself.</p>
<p>The good news is that you’re still going to college. You have a choice of several state schools, which as I understand, means that you are looking at some very nice options. (A&M and Baylor are darn good in my book.) You can also transfer schools, if you really dislike your options that much.</p>
<p>The bonus good news is this learning experience. It’s far better to take the lessons you got as a undergrad and apply them come time for med school applications than it is to screw up your medical school admissions like your cousin and other acquaintances. Now that you know all this, you’ve actually got a slight leg up on many of your fellow pre-meds. Keep learning as an undergrad, and you might find yourself in a very nice position four years from now.</p>
<p>While you’re upset about how your college admissions went, it simply doesn’t make sense to summarily and categorically throw away your chances at a US Osteo or Allopathic education just yet. Given the difficulty that exists for US citizens who are graduates of foreign medical schools to return to the states for residency, these should only be viewed as last resorts when all other options have been exhausted. Go Baylor or A&M, do well, apply smartly to med schools, and see what happens.</p>
<p>It’s too late to do anything about the fact that you chose your schools poorly; too many that were reaches and no safeties you really liked. To create a list of schools to apply to for undergrad based entirely on med school acceptance rates was not wise.</p>
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<p>There’s no guarantee you would have fared any better at these schools. This second list includes schools that are SO different that it tells me that you gave little thought to whether or not the schools were a good fit for your undergraduate success and instead were focused solely on what you thought would be a better ticket for you in a far more unpredictable admissions process.</p>
<p>Go to Baylor or A&M and do everything you need to do to be a good candidate for med school. Take advantage of in state tuition because med school is FAR more expensive than undergrad unless you get into one of the Texas schools.</p>
<p>Those schools will NOT hurt your chances for med school admission. There are several students from both schools in my son’s med school class. </p>
<p>Texas does have more than four med schools; UT Southwestern, Baylor, UT Houston, UTMB-Galveston, UT San Antonio, Texas A&M and Texas Tech. They are all mandated to enroll 90 percent in state students (not to be confused with grads of in state schools) so everyone should apply to them all plus at least seven or eight more schools as well.</p>
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<p>There’s obviously more to this story it wasn’t the fact that she was a UT-Austin grad. Her GPA and MCAT would have her clearly in the mix for Texas Tech or A&M and maybe UTMB or UTSA. She either had weak medically related ECs, a bad personal statement or essay, bad recs, a combination of all or some of these or something else was going on. Most people I know don’t openly talk about their MCAT scores; maybe she really didn’t have a 32?</p>
<p>Did she get any interviews? With those stats if all else was in line she should have gotten an interview at TT or A&M.</p>
<p>As a graduating senior and with UT Austin as my only accepted school, my mom is urging me to attend the MBBS Program (english medium) in Shanghai’s FuDan University…</p>
<p>Good idea or bad? I have researched alot about IMS applying for permission to take USMLE and get fellowship/residency here in the US and this path seems feasible, altho may be real competitive for IMS to be qualified for the exams here.</p>
<p>I know UT Austin is a great school and if i try, i can def get into medical school eventually…im just asking for any personal experiences or stories you guys heard about foreign MBBS degree recognition in the United States. </p>
<p>^^ LOL, my parents were saying the same thing about the MBBS program in China, I eventually convinced them that I wouldn’t want to go to China, and IF i decide on going to a foreign medical school it would be in the carrabean…I don’t know, I am seriously considering the Carribean, because I only spend 4 Years there, and then 2 years back in the U.S. doing my clinical work…I heard for the MBBS program, you spend 2 years in China, and then 2 years back in the U.S. doing your clincial work…As for as how compietive it is to get a residency back, my uncle and his friends who are currently practicing physicans got their MBBS from Asia, and they got great residency programs back in the U.S…</p>
<p>The other thing, is I understand that if I want to go to Medical School, I should go to A&M and Baylor and just work really hard. But a lot can change in 4 years, what if I lose focuse for 2 out of those 4 years, (I did that in high school, that explains my low unweighted gpa), and then what if I get stuck in the same situation all over again…If I go to the Carrabean, and if I work hard for 3 years, I can become a doctor…</p>