Thinking About NYU BFA Program

<p>Hi all,</p>

<p>I've been thinking about applying to the NYU BFA program at Steinhardt, but haven't been able to find out much about it, except for the stuff on the NYU website. Anybody know anything about it?</p>

<p>Doesn't anybody know anything about the NYU program?</p>

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<p>Thanks jkolko, but the google lists links primarily to info on the music, musical theater, and dance BFA programs. Not what I'm looking for. Guess I should have been more specific. I need info on the studio art BFA program. Again, all I've been able to dig up is the stuff on the NYU website. I'd love to hear from some one who is in the program, or has a kid in the program. A little straight from the horses mouth info would be greatly appreciated.</p>

<p>Maybe I an in error,but when I read about highly rated or highly recognized visual art programs for undergraduates, NYU never seems to be mentioned. I would seriously question the quality of their undergraduate studio art offerings.</p>

<p>taxguy - That's what I'm concerned about. I haven't heard the NYU program mentioned as a quality program either. Strange too. NYC is pretty much an art Mecca. Certainly one of the premier places for visual and performing arts in the US, yet I have never seen any independent references to the NYU studio art BFA program anywhere, either positive or negative. CMU, Syracuse, University of Michigan, yes. NYU, never. Sure makes you wonder.</p>

<p>there are plenty of good visual art schools in NYC: Cooper Union, SVA, Parson, Pratt. Maybe that is not NYU's niche. If NYC is the draw, why not investigate those schools?</p>

<p>m&sdad - Thanks for the advice, but NYC is not the draw and I don't want to go to a school that is essentially art only. My interests are too diverse. I'm looking for LACs or universities with good academics and a strong art program. Frankly, NYU would be a backup school for me, but if the art program isn't up to snuff (even though the academics are very respectable) I wouldn't want to apply. I started this thread because I thought NYU would be a good place to go to school and a school I could most likely get into, and I needed more info on the art program. By the way, I live near NYC and went to the summer program at Pratt in Manhatten last summer, so I'm pretty much up on the City thing.</p>

<p>Art has many facits that you can study. There is painting, sculpure, illustration, printmaking, art history etc. Also, there are the applied arts such as industrial design, graphic design, transportation and furniture design and new media/interactive design. Thus, we need to know what area of art is of interest to you.</p>

<p>NYU doesn't have an especially strong reputation for studio arts, maybe because there are so many other options in New York, maybe because NYU concentrates on other aspects of the arts like art history, film and theater. </p>

<p>Amptron, you’ve asked the LAC question several times and have been given the usual suspects several times (E.g., Wesleyan, Hamilton, Skidmore, Vassar, Williams, Conn College). Maybe you just don’t like the LAC concept? I’d be the first to admit they’re not for everyone but those who like them, love them, including art majors.</p>

<p>I, personally, think that you can get a fine studio arts education in the liberal arts context at any one of a number of LACs, but without question the course offerings won’t be as wide as those offered by a research university. If you intend to study a balanced menu of disciplines -- some science, some humanities, some social studies -- in four years of undergraduate work you’ll take 10 to 12 art courses. Several of those will be independent/honors/thesis work under the tutelage of a professor. I.e., after you’ve gone through Drawing I and II, there’s only so much that classroom “teaching” can accomplish. In some semesters, my son’s only taken one art course, but there’s definitely no limit to the amount of studio time he’s invested.</p>

<p>Art majors at LACs have no problem filling up their class cards with available courses. Exceptions are classes in graphic design or new media, areas in which LACs are weak. For traditional studio art, if your objective is to get a well rounded liberal arts education in addition to majoring in art, then LACs do fine.</p>

<p>If you’re sincere about investigating LACs, visit, tour the facilities, talk to professors, spend some time with the kids, look at the work, see the museums. Find out what they offer in other arts related activities like theater, music, creative writing. If they don’t impress then go for big. The universities your mention have wonderful academics and very good art departments. If you’re already feeling claustrophobic, you may just not be the LAC type.</p>

<p>The art teachers at my Ds creative and performing arts HS have great things to say about the vis arts program at Skidmore.</p>

<p>momrath - I know I must sound like I'm beating this to death, but I'm just being anxious. I have, in fact, taken the advice of a number of posters on this site. I've applied to Wash U, CMU, Conn Coll and Syracuse. I'm also applying to William and Mary based on the general reputation of the school, and I applied ED to UPenn, but unfortunately didn't get in. I'm considering NYU because I generally want to go to a school in or near a large city (hence Wash U, CMU, and UPenn) though it isn't a requirement. I also want a school with a good academic reputation and, as I said before, a good art school. I was hoping that NYU had the art school. I'm also trying to apply to schools over a range of admission difficulty levels. I kind of slotted NYU into the place above Syracuse in difficulty, but below Conn Coll. And I should add, I'm not averse to a LAC, I just want to make the right choice.</p>

<p>Taxguy - I'm interested in drawing, illustration, animation, and concept art. I also want to either minor or double major in creative writing. My goal, at this point, is to do concept art, illustrations, and story lines for video games, computer games, and movies. I also want to illustrate my own stories.</p>

<p>m&sdad - I looked at Skidmore. The art department looked good, but they didn't have a creative writing concentration so I put the school in my reject list.</p>

<p>I should note that Wash U, Syracuse and CMU all have good programs in drawing and illustration and concept art. Actually, based on pure grad school ratings: Syracuse may be the best of the three. Check out Masters of Fine Arts rating by U.S. News and World Report. </p>

<p>UPenn, however, have a very interest and very tough program in digital art. You should check on this too.</p>

<p>I believe all the schools that you mentioned have creative writing too.</p>

<p>Cornell University has a small B.F.A. program . For strong creative writing check out Johns Hopkins with exchange program at M.I.C.A.</p>

<p>amptron, I didn't realize you were applying THIS YEAR! Well, you've got a great list and I'm sure you'll find what you're looking for. </p>

<p>I'm surprised at your comment on Skidmore -- one of my son's friends chose Skidmore BECAUSE of their strong creative writing offerings (in a lively town, but not near a large city though).</p>

<p>Have you considered Brown?</p>

<p>Momrath - I considered Brown, but thought it would be too difficult to get in so I didn't apply. </p>

<p>Taxguy - I'm aware of the Upenn digital art program and probably would have gotten involved with it one way or another, if I had gotten in. Unfortunately, I applied ED and was rejected. Also, Wash U, Syracuse, and Carnegie Mellon have strong creative writing programs and strong visual art programs. That's why I applied to those schools.</p>

<p>To all - Just want to close this thread by saying thanks for your comments and advice. They have been very helpful.</p>

<p>Hi,</p>

<p>CMU has a fairly unique BHA program <a href="http://www.cmu.edu/interdisciplinary/programs/bhaprogram.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.cmu.edu/interdisciplinary/programs/bhaprogram.html&lt;/a> that may be of interest.</p>

<p>Thanks jkolko. I'll look into it.</p>

<p>My d. said that the Wash. U. rep. who visited her school responded to an interested student, that Wash U. did not have creative writing, or any writing major. So, I was curious why they would be known for their creative writing! I looked on the web site, and noticed they do have a "certificate" program, and definitely offer writing within the English curriculum. However, it is odd that the rep. would not have acknowledged this if indeed it were a true strength. Any more you can share about the program?</p>

<p>Interesting that the rep would not acknowledge the writing program. It sure seems extensive and the faculty, as far as I can tell, is first rate. Here's info on the writing minor direct from the Wash U website:</p>

<p>Although the English Department does not offer a Writing Major, it provides a full range of courses in the writing of poetry, fiction, drama, and various forms of non-fiction, as well as advanced courses in expository writing. A student with a special interest in writing may count toward the major up to nine upper-division units from a selection of these courses (designated E Comp). </p>

<p>Students who wish to take a Writing Minor in addition to an English Major are advised to take English and American literature courses (designated E Lit) exclusively for the major, E Comp courses exclusively for the minor. Except where noted, students are expected to receive a grade of C or better in each course.</p>

<p>The Writing Minor consists of 15 units comprising any five of the following courses, but no more than two courses (six units) on the 200-level:</p>

<p>E Comp 211: Practice in Composition (with grade of B or better)
E Comp 221: Fiction Writing
E Comp 222: Poetry Writing
E Comp 224: Playwriting
E Lit 301E: Practical Criticism
E Comp 311: Exposition
E Comp 312: Argumentation
E Comp 313: Topics in English Composition
*E Comp 321: Advanced Writing: Fiction
*E Comp 322: Advanced Writing: Poetry
E Comp 351: Introduction to Playwriting
*E Comp 421: Proseminar in Writing: Fiction
*E Comp 422: Proseminar in Writing: Poetry
*E Comp 423: Proseminar in Writing: Nonfiction
E Comp 452: Seminar in Playwriting
E Comp 4801: Screenwriting
E Comp 500: Independent Study (limit three units)</p>