<p>Do members of fraternities/ sororities get “talks”?</p>
<p>About drinking , losing the fraternity chapter , dying, sexual assault etc…</p>
<p>If a school tries to crack down on extreme partying, they are blasted for wasting resources on such trivial matters, sometimes by the parents of students who probably did inane things in college too.</p>
<p>@veruca–Of course we get the ‘talks’, but that doesn’t mean that some really dumb 18-22 year old guys are going to think about that. We had plenty of talks on drinking (and drinking safely, none of that ‘don’t drink ever ever ever’), sexual assault, rape, body image, etc… But that didn’t stop some people from having to get their stomach pumped. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t force them to drink</p>
<p>Another problem schools face is the lack of sufficient on-campus housing. The fraternities and sororities provide much needed on-campus housing, a fact most school admins don’t want to admit.</p>
<p>These type of actions are universally condemned yet they occur over and over again. I guess it is like crime. Everyone knows it is wrong to steal or murder, yet it continues. It’s a strange quality of our civilization.</p>
<p>Hmmm…I don’t see anything in the article to suggest that this was hazing. The “victim” was 20. So, other than underage…drinking…what is the violation here? Clearly, this is a stupid thing to do, but if it’s done voluntarily by a group of idiots, what’s the rule violation–other than underage consumption?</p>
<p>I also note that the victim was brought to the ER by his friends–which is, supposedly, what we want them to do when somebody is dangerously drunk. If you arrest and/or expel the guys who took him to the ER, what will the next group of guys in that situation do?</p>
<p>Even this situation, horrible as it is, gets complicated when you think about it.</p>
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<p>And a fact that is easy to correct by forcing the houses on campus to close. Upon closure, since the only reasonable buyer is the college itself, it would not be that difficult to convert the former houses into additional dorms. Then move onto an ever enlarging diameter until you make the houses less attractive. </p>
<p>The shortage of housing is one of the poorest excuses to justify the existence of fraternities.</p>
<p>If the guy with the over .40 blood-alcohol level had died the others at the party could have been charged with involuntary manslaughter. Serious stuff.</p>
<p>xiggi, in principle I agree totally removing the Greek presence on campus and subsequently purchasing their houses would solve the dependency on fraternities & sororities providing on-campus housing. But, unless ALL schools nation-wide eliminated the entire Greek system a few schools trying such a maneuver could never make it work - between the lawsuits and the alums it would be full-scale war.</p>
<p>Our local news reported that they are looking into hazing. No evidence yet that it was.</p>
<p>I don’t know what happened…but dad is right out front denying the story.</p>
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<p>I’ve heard about these “methods” – including the alchohol enema, the alcohol-soaked tampon, and ingesting alcohol through the eyeball (what?) – to get drunk faster and, in theory, to avoid having alcohol on your breath. I find it so difficult to believe that anyone would ever do such things. It’s horrifying.</p>
<p>While I comprehend teens looking for ways to get drunk without having alcohol on the breath, I can’t see why anyone in a private environment would do an alcohol enema in order to get drunk quicker. If that’s the goal, all it takes is a few shots-consumed the way most normal human beings do it.</p>
<p>I didn’t read the article - the title was more than enough. But my husband and I were just having a conversation about things like this a few days ago.</p>
<p>We grew up in an area where the drinking age was 18 so we went to many high school parties where beer freely flowed. It was illegal but it was also fairly innocent. No one abused the drunk people, no incriminating pictures, the boys were respectful to the girls. The current lack of boundaries and the pressure to be more and more outrageous is terrifying.</p>
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<p>I’ve heard parents talk about letting their older teens have wine with dinner at home, in order to be able to teach them to drink responsibly. Maybe we need to sit down with them with a full bottle of something and a couple of shot glasses…okay honey, if you want to get drunk quickly, try this…</p>
<p>The frat guy who was taken to emergency room with well over .40 alcohol-blood level is lucky to be alive. To get that much booze in his system would be like chugging a pint of whiskey straight down–about 15 or 16 shots of booze.</p>
<p>I have read accounts of people with lower than .40 BAC who died from the alcohol. Lucky indeed.</p>
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It’s because young men, especially in a group, are risk-takers. Again, unless this was hazing, I don’t see how it’s essentially different from any case in which somebody underage gets dangerously drunk and is taken to the ER–something that probably happens numerous times every day. It’s only the novelty of the delivery system that makes this news.</p>
<p>I don’t understand why the “ick” factor doesn’t kick in and make these guys think twice
Of course there were probably many there who didn’t participate -it just takes one I guess</p>
<p>Mark Broughton, the victim’s father is what’s wrong with this world we live in. </p>
<p>Deny, deny, deny, and take no responsibility. </p>
<p>Not my son. Not my daughter.</p>