You people are really hard on Marc! Sure, he’s a horrible boyfriend and emotionally abusive, and I’m glad Late Teen Kate got “rescued” from him. But it all comes from such obvious weakness and neediness in him. He’s a screwed-up, lost kid.
I said I was hoping for a ruse, but I guess the fallout between Kevin and Randall is real.
“Justin Hartley contextualized just how major this game-changing moment for Kevin and Randall is, saying that the brothers’ upcoming blowup will effectively change their relationship for good. And gulp, you should be very, very worried.
“It’s big. No, it’s big, big,” Hartley tells ET. “It’s more than a misunderstanding. I think it’s a philosophy. It’s like, ‘This is how you handle your life and this is how you deal with things and this is what you think. I go about my business a different way,’ and they just can’t [see eye to eye]…”
While Kevin and Randall have experienced their share of ups and downs over the past four seasons, Hartley says this is on another level.
“This one’s for real,” he says. “This is not like we’re going to argue about something. This is two men, two brothers each taking a stand that suggests that if they don’t bend, the other one will not be in their life. I mean, it is a big deal. It just gives them… it’s a big deal.””
That appears to leave open that the split may not be permanent. “If they don"t bend” says that one or both of them may bend.
Maybe that Kevin built dad’s house for himself and took over care for Rebecca? Randall wanting to be the strong one for mom, but Kevin rides in on his white horse and saves the day.
My guess is, all our thoughts are wrong, as that is what this show does to us; it keeps us guessing!
I’m waiting to find out that the house isn’t, in fact, Kevin’s. That Randall built it. Or that the 3 of them built it together. Given the show, there’s got to be a catch to the house. It being Kevin’s is way too predictable. And if it were his, with him living there, would he have stopped for so long to look wistfully at the original cabin? IMO, he didn’t behave as if he were walking into his own house.
Maybe Randall did build it before Kevin could. Beth was there of course. But wasn’t there some reference in the flash forward scenes last year to a statement that it WAS Kevin’s house? Or…could it be that this week’s scene is totally separate from the scene we saw last year - and that is why the age/aging difference in Kevin? Could the scene from last year be in reference to Rebeccas being ill when the kids are 50 and at Kevins…but the scene this week being in reference to another illness…Kate?..when they are 60…and at Randall’s - which is on the hill by the cabin??
(I can’t have the recall to remember all the details if this could be a scenario or not! It boggles my mind!!)
Cliff Notes would be helpful right about now!
^^I think in the flash forward, Toby says something like, “Man, Kevin’s house is big.” And then when Kevin’s son is asked where his dad is he says he realized there was no food in the house, so he went out to get take out.
Maybe Kevin built the house for Rebecca, but when she passes it will go to three kids to enjoy !
This popped up on my FB feed; I am sure there are other similar articles:
https://www.etonline.com/this-is-us-finally-reveals-old-kevin-in-the-future-and-3-mysteries-unpacked-141709
I grew up in Pittsburgh and still get back there regularly. The whole logistical aspects of some of this sometimes seems mind boggling. Everyone being spread out but being able to transport themselves miraculously at a moment’s notice when they are needed. Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, LA, so many locations. And the Nicky trailer is supposedly in Bradford, over three hours north of Pittsburgh.
Kate has an issue and mom pulls in Kevin, has to pick up Randall at CMU in Oakland, and they feel they can get there to rescue her that night (the weather delayed them til the next morning but they apparently felt they could get there fairly quickly).
If I had to guess where this cabin might be, I would guess somewhere in the Laurel Highlands near Pittsburgh ( still probably at least an hour away from them) - popular area for Pittsburgh people that want a place in nature but not too far away.
You definitely have to suspend belief with some of this but that is part of the fun!
I have zero doubt that Marc dropped that mug on purpose. He is cruel; he could tell it meant something special to Kate and it was another way to break her down.
Marc is HORRIBLE. I don’t care if he’s had a rough upbringing. There is no excuse for locking your girlfriend out of a cabin in the middle of nowhere during a snowstorm. I’m kind of surprised the brothers didn’t beat him up.
I rewatched the Kevin and Kate episodes with my D last night - see hadn’t seen them yet. While I fully agree that Mark likely dropped the mug on purpose, I was reminded that he is NOT stable but that I think he has a misplaced, not ok jealousy for Kate and her family. His behavior in no way is acceptable but I wonder if his upbringing was not ok as well and that his relationship skills - and mental state - are WAY not ok.
I also worry/wonder if there will be something more to their relationship ending - something more terrible for Kate - or for him.
Yea, Marc seems like he might turn into a stalker. It was good that Kate was safe… but was anybody else worrying that they might not board up the window? Silly detail in my head, I know.
@colorado_mom I also “worry” about tasks left undone on tv shows and in movies, like ignoring the real needs of a dog. I find myself yelling at the tv screen “feed the dog” or “get your dog outside”. The timeline on tv does not take into account that people need to show up to their job for 8 hours a day, or go grocery shopping, or cook their food even.
I do suspend belief often for This Is Us, like how much stuff got saved from their house fire. I feel like I want to rewatch from beginning and try to inventory what Jack was able to grab and save.
I remember it as “This house is big.” And Kevin could have realized there was no food and gone out to get something even if it’s not his house. Of course, I could be all wet about that.
Man, I was offline all weekend. Y’all went crazy! I thought I’d missed an episode there were so many new posts.
To be clear, I’m not saying that I think Mark dropped the cup on accident; I’m just saying that none of us knows and that they intended that to be the case. A little emotional tension there.
I feel like I want to go back and watch the key episodes to see what clues I may have missed. I don’t like to read the interviews that give away what might happen.
I’m also mad that I’ll miss tomorrow because of the $%&$* debate!
ETA: I loved that preview where Randall said that the family would fall apart without him, which, of course, isn’t true but he thinks is true and is why he is so stressed. I have one like that.
I never watch the night it’s actually on - maybe on the season finale but I rarely watch ANYTHING on the night it’s on!
okay pure speculation…
Maybe Madison is the mom of Kevin’s child and, while Kevin is willing to support the child financially and share custody, he doesn’t want to marry Maddie. Maddie does want to marry Kevin. Randall, family man that he is, thinks that’s unacceptable and they fight over that. Just a guess–obviously.