<p>I'm tired about everyone obsessing abut whether or not they'll get into the ivies or their dream schools.</p>
<p>It doesn't really matter, as long as you go somewhere you like.</p>
<p>Seriously, it's not like employers even care where you went to undergrad school.</p>
<p>Why is everyone so obsessive?</p>
<p>Well I have to say employers I queried very much care. Try finding people who did not attend top undergrad and grad schools in the most high paying environments, while they're certainly there many more have top credentials at all levels.</p>
<p>I agree for some professions, like doctors, it doesn't much matter.</p>
<p>But seriously, why would an employer care where you go for undergrad?</p>
<p>When you're an undergrad, you're just trying to figure out what you want to do with your life.</p>
<p>A lot of business people I know say that they care way more about where you went for graduate school.</p>
<p>For example, a law firm would know you have a great education for being a lawyer if you went to Harvard law school, but the firm would have know way of knowing if you even took advantage of the law courses at Harvard if you just went there for undergrad.</p>
<p>I think that people are so obsessed about getting into the competitive schools because it's human nature to want to be the best at everything.</p>
<p>I'm not bitter because I won't have a chance at the Ivies, as I do have the grades and scores to have a chance, but I think that people are stresing out way too much about the undergrad admissions process.</p>
<p>It's really not going to matter in life whether you went to Yale or Emory for undergrad, but people are so obsessed about it anyways.</p>
<p>Because the world is full of old boy clubs. They hire people who went to their schools.</p>
<p>And when you're talking about schools like Harvard law school, just look at the vast majority of who gets in. You guessed it, kids from top colleges in droves.</p>
<p>All that means is that more people who go to the "prestigious schools" are qualified.</p>
<p>At my high school, like 45 people out of 140 go to IVies and similar caliber schools, but that doesn't mean that if you go to my high school, it improves your chances of getting into colleges like that.</p>
<p>Any of those 45 kids could transfer to a less competitive high school, and they'd still get in.</p>
<p>Like, for people with 2200 sat scores and great grades, when luck wasn't on their side, they didn't get into the top colleges and instead went to like Vanderbilt.</p>
<p>That doesn't mean that their chances of getting into top grad schools will be less.</p>
<p>That person will probably be near the top of his class at Vandy and be one of the fewer Vandy people qualified to go to the "top grad schools."</p>
<p>Vandy is a top college!</p>
<p>I go to one of those schools where lots go ivy too, over 30%. They are not the top 30% of the class, they are mostly legacies, athletes and the very wealthy. People who end up a Vandy are just as smart on the whole!</p>
<p>I think when we're talking about better access to jobs and grad schools, we're talking further down the food chain.</p>
<p>lmao i think you're asking this on the WRONG site. lol
but i agree completely. not going to harvard is not the end of the world, people do need to chill. that being said, while i don't need to get into an ivy, i do want to go to a school that is considered "good" and i'd be sad if i didn't get into one of my top choices.</p>
<p>Well, yeah, I mean, I do have my pride. Like, I didn't work so hard in school and study so hard for my SAT to go somewhere with a 98 percent admissions rate.</p>
<p>But what I'm talking about is that people are obsessing about the "eliteness" of the college they go to way too much, and it seems like a giant rat race, but even if you do get into Penn or Brown, it really isn't going to matter that much in the big scheme of things of that person went to UVA instead.</p>
<p>Seriously, people like Michelle Hernandez, it seems like they're trying to scare everyone into thinking that goingto HYMPS is the key to everything, and you should dedicate your life to it and obsess about it, even though it doesn't really matter.</p>
<p>^ lol @ michelle hernandez, she's full of herself</p>
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But what I'm talking about is that people are obsessing about the "eliteness" of the college they go to way too much, and it seems like a giant rat race, but even if you do get into Penn or Brown, it really isn't going to matter that much in the big scheme of things of that person went to UVA instead.
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<p>I'd hardly consider UVA settling or going a step down. </p>
<p>UMich, UVA, Berkeley, UCLA, and UNC may be public state schools, but they're terrific institutions. You don't need to pay $50k/yr for a top-notch education, and in many -- if not most (top 30 schools... hardly a large number when you have over 4000 colleges in the US) -- cases, you can actually receive a better education for less money. Most of the "stigma" comes from students who prefer not to attend their in-state public schools for a variety of reasons, even if they are similar to the ones listed above.</p>
<p>I'd say any "Top 50" university is highly prestigious, and every "Top 100" university is far above the vast majority of post-secondary institutions in this country. These schools didn't end up high on various rankings by accident: they are bastions of higher education. The "Top 100" may be an arbitrary cut-off point, and one could certainly argue for the inclusion or exclusion of a specific university, but I believe that these are all great schools.</p>
<p>When someone tells me they're going to MSU or Rutgers, I'm impressed. They may not be Brown or UPenn, but they're damn fine universities and among the best in the world.</p>