To combat the oveblown sexual assault issue on campus...the right to carry guns on campus?

=D>

Can you imagine the trouble getting a rape conviction - had a gun but didn’t use it (to shoot her ex-BF, roomie’s friend, friend’s frat brother, etc) so it must have been consensual.

Sounds like a new movie plot: 50 Shades of Gunmetal Grey

Maybe just pepper spray would be a better idea.

If you pepper spray someone who is raping you, you pepper spray yourself too.

Maybe, maybe not. And, why do I have to point out that is quite a bit preferable to getting shot?

Exactly, @saintfan‌ . If a woman is always permitted to carry a gun, then she always has the capability to shoot her assailant. So if she’s raped, it’s because she chose not to own, not to carry, not to shoot. In other words, it’s always her fault, and I think that’s the point. Enshrining into law the idea that rape is always the victim’s fault.

@romanigypsyeyes‌ You make an excellent point about the unlikelihood of shooting someone you know. But you could have shot; therefore, you know, it’s your fault.

The idea behind the quote is that by the law preventing the law abiding citizen from carrying a firearm, the law has prevented them from protecting themself from the rape. The same logic doesn’t apply in this situation, no one forced them to accidently shoot someone (or is easier to understand, no one prevented them from not accidently shooting someone). Though I’m sure you were just teasing and this didn’t need to be explained.

And I think it’s really disingenuous to suggest that the result would be that a rape would be deemed consensual because the assailant wasn’t shot.

One problem is that any weapon can be used against you. Predators don’t play nice.

If any person thinks going to the police to report sexual assault puts the claimant under intense scrutiny and is unpleasant imagine the scrutiny that would ensure if the claimant actually shoots someone.

I don’t get why it is disingenuous. In cases of campus rape where the assailant and victim often have some prior social connection I would think it would be very hard for a young woman to decide to use deadly force even if she had that option at her disposal. Logistically the whole things seems preposterous to me so I’ll admit that upfront, but even in cases of a stranger mugging a firearm is only worthwhile if you are actually willing to use it. If an assailant calls your bluff and you can’t kill then you likely get assaulted AND lose your weapon. As we saw during the Florida abusive partner stand your ground case, when a woman stands her ground an uses her weapon against a man known to her she doesn’t necessarily win. The idea of asking young women to be potential killers seems backazzward to me.

All you have to do is read the comment section on any crime related news article to know that there are many people out there who already feel that all crime would be eliminated if only everyone carried and was willing to shoot first and ask questions later. Victims are mocked for not taking more responsibility over their destiny by carrying guns. Why would that attitude not carry ver to campus rapes as well if carrying were an option. It seems like one more way to say that she put herself in a bad position and therefor got what she had coming.

As the article suggests, it’s the congresspeople who are being disingenuous. I don’t believe for a minute that they care about sexual assault victims. Rather, they want to please a constituent, and this is their latest marketing strategy.

I’m reminded of the Guinness commercial that features a bunch of guys playing wheelchair basketball. I’m really supposed to believe that a multinational beverage corporation cares about the disabled? Even if the company does “give back,” it’s all just a ploy to sell beer.

This reminds me of that song from the musical Chicago:

“And we both reached for the gun!”

He had it coming . . . :-"

^^^LOL.

“I fired two warning shots…right into his head!”

And now that song will be stuck in my head for the next several weeks… lol

But that’s not necessarily a bad thing . . . I have to get up now and accomplish things so I can whistle while I work. waving goodbye and trying not to break out in a parting song from another musical :-h

OMG @saintfan

@saintfan, “Adieu. Adieu, to you and you and…”

Yikes, get me outta here. :smiley:

The only problem that I see from the gun toting hottie’s standpoint is the unfortunate name of the tune . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpytcFnCyAY

^^^^Hilarious.

Sorry for the hijack folks.