To live at UC Berkeley or UCLA? THAT is the question.

<p>@Freetofly112‌ </p>

<p>Doesn’t compare to life in South Central LA, son.</p>

<p>@Cayton‌ all I’m saying is if our homeless had a fight with your homeless, our homeless would totally win.</p>

<p>@Freetofly112‌ </p>

<p>And all I’m saying is that our homeless don’t fight fair and will probably shank someone. Your homeless have been warned.</p>

<p>@cayton @freetofly112 , you guys do know that college confidential gives the UC’s all the usernames in the transfer forum and all IP address’s that they have ever logged in with. Each campus matches it up to the IP you have used to access the application portals, so I would watch what you guys say lol!</p>

<p>@JewBacca.</p>

<p>Do they? Can you cite that?</p>

<p>Hahahaha just messing with you :wink: … Got ya, @cayton!</p>

<p>Jewbacca strikes again!</p>

<p>@JewBacca‌ </p>

<p>I knew it, lol.</p>

<p>The philosophy-major side of me thought, “he’s probably not right. College Confidential would say something about that. Also, the UCs don’t have time to read everyone’s posts on this forum. It doesn’t make any sense whatsoever for them to do that…”</p>

<p>The college student side of me got a little paranoid, though lol. I did reading on College Confidential’s terms of service and privacy policy and they don’t say anything about that.</p>

<p>Lol yeah, they wouldn’t have enough time for that. Also, I think it would be illegal unless they explicitly told us they would release this information. </p>

<p>Hi everyone! Currently replying from my hotel room in Berkeley haha. I visited the campus this weekend and attended the reception for newly admitted transfer students. I just have to say that over all, I wasn’t impressed with Cal. There also seems to be very little going on in terms of night life— but maybe that’s because I’m so used to LA’s club life? </p>

<p>I also was turned off that so many transfer students got in with low GPAs, etc. That definitely takes away from the “prestige” of the school. I have a 3.9, I work, I’m an active volunteer/mentor in my community, and have a leardership position at my school’s Environmental Club. And then I’m supposed to feel proud to be around students that got accepted with 3.1 to 3.4 GPAs? </p>

<p>lol. </p>

<p>That’s because Berkeley is a school that utilizes a holistic review process and not just a GPA numbers school? The people accepted with low GPAs probably had extenuating circumstances written in their personal statements and/or great extracurriculars. There’s more to college admissions and prestige than just high GPAs. </p>

<p>You must feel truly “euph0ric” with your high GPA.</p>

<p>@euph0ric‌ </p>

<p>It pretty snobby to say that you’re “turned off” by your observation that some students got in with GPAs that are somewhat lower than yours.</p>

<p>Schools like Berkeley aren’t prestigious because they admit students with high GPAs. They’re prestigious because their graduate programs are strong and benefit the local community as well as the world. Berkeley, for example, has discovered more chemical elements than any other university in the world. It has a list of other accomplishments that I don’t feel like putting up here, but here’s my point: Berkeley’s prestige and accomplishments have little, if anything to do with how its undergraduate admissions is run. With these facts in mind, it makes little sense to say that admitting students with lower GPAs detracts from a school’s prestige.</p>

<p>Furthermore, Berkeley and other top schools use the holistic admissions process to admit students who show promise for academic excellence and leadership even if their GPAs are only decent. These schools don’t admit GPAs, they admit <em>people.</em></p>

<p>I attended an event for admitted transfer students at UCLA today and bumped into a friend of mine from the community college I attend. He was accepted into their anthropology program with a 3.1~3.2 GPA(Can’t remember exactly). You might be wondering why he was admitted. I don’t know for certain myself, but if I had to guess, I’d say that it’s because he is a Marine Corps veteran and former student government member who has an intense love of learning; his nose is in the books all of the time and I don’t know of many people who are as smart and as dedicated to accumulating knowledge as he is, and he probably wrote about his past experience in the military and hobbies. If so, it’s no surprise that UCLA admitted him even if his grades may not have been as competitive as they could’ve been, and I’m absolutely glad that they did. Berkeley is no different in admitting these kinds of students from varied backgrounds and with interesting hobbies. If you see a student who’s been admitted to Berkeley with a gpa in the 3.0~3.3 range or thereabout, he/she was probably admitted because the other parts of their application were very strong and have persuaded the admissions officers to accept them. They’re just as deserving of their spot at that school as you are. Don’t ever forget that.</p>

<p>@euphoric, lol, says the prestige w. Junior College transfer. 1/10 for making me reply.</p>

<p>@Zalrons‌ </p>

<p>Damn. I’ve been successfully trolled. :O</p>

<p>@cayton, haha, I was about to write a long message about how euphoric is a dunce but I’m too drunk now. Thanks for posting your thoughts on bruin day by the way! </p>

<p>@Zalrons</p>

<p>lol, no problem.</p>

<p>I get what you’re saying @cayton but I kind of side with @euph0ric‌. Considering that Berkeley is the #1 publuc school in the world, one should expect a bit more rigor, despite the holistic angle. But I have been seeing this everywhere. I think, as public schools, serving California, they need to make exceptions. </p>

<p>@Cayton, great reply to euphoric! so I’m trying to decide between UCB and UCLA too. you probably already expressed why you like UCLA but why did you pick it over UCB?</p>

<p>@randombookie‌ </p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>I chose UCLA over Berkeley primarily because Berkeley’s philosophy program is annoying in that its pre-reqs aren’t offered at most community colleges; I’d have to take them at Berkeley as well as some other Berkeley general ed requirements that I didn’t do at my community college. This problem didn’t exist with UCLA. </p>

<p>Furthermore, UCLA’s philosophy classes looked far more interesting than Berkeley’s. I also didn’t want to move all the way to northern California because I didn’t feel that Berkeley was worth it when I was accepted to a school close to me that is very nearly as good. If I were rejected from UCLA and accepted to Berkeley, then I’d probably go there, but that’s not how things turned out. Berkeley isn’t so much more prestigious than UCLA to tempt me to move all the way over there. Berkeley’s only a little more prestigious than UCLA, despite what some Berkeley fans and students would like you to believe. The quality of the undergraduate education you’ll get at UCLA is certainly comparable to that of a Berkeley education, so that also discouraged me from moving. Finally, I’d like to stay somewhat close to home and UCLA offers me an opportunity to do just that.</p>

<p>Is anyone out there still stuck?
Damn these two incredible campuses with their awesome qualities that make it so hard for me to choose between them :frowning: :(( </p>

<p>I’m sorry Cayton, but Cal’s prestige/reputation far exceeds UCLA. Mama Bear stronger den dem cubs ;)…</p>