<p>It would be really unnatural for me to not stand on my tip toes to kiss a guy.</p>
<p>It irritates me when I see guys with girls a foot shorter than them...just does. Heck, anything more than 6 inches irritates me :/</p>
<p>Haha aw, I think it's pretty cute when guys are a lot taller than the girl they're with.
I'm 5'7" and I would say 5'9" is the absolute shortest guy I would normally find attractive. If there were two guys, one 6'2" and one 5'9" and slightly more attractive, I'd go for the 6'2" as long as he wasn't really thin and lacking any muscle tone. Muscular and solidly built 5'9" is much better than a frail looking 6'2"</p>
<p>^yep. I here you. That's why I work out! </p>
<p>My point is NOT that girls need to find short guys more attractive. Simply that when girls complain that men "are too superficial", they are really saying "the guy I'm attracted to for purely superficial reasons is too superficial." You cannot complain that men are only concerned with sexual attributes and then say-"oh, a guy has to be athletic, 6'2, solid build, blue eyes, etc."
If you're superficial, say it! Don't pretend your criteria invloves things like intelligence (which is actually a turn-off to most women), sense of humor, etc. </p>
<p>I certainly have physcial preferences. But I have zero requirements, other than that a girl take physical care of herself. It's seems that girls are much more likely to have requirements. As women become older, some of this changes (I'm 22, and women DO become less superficial, there's hope for the guys who aren't NCAA athletes).</p>
<p>i think u just nailed the constant debate going on in this thread. Couldnt have said it better.</p>
<p>To have ideal attributes you look for and to set requirements are completely different.</p>
<p>even though what u said saliksyed is cynical, i am awed at how much that opened my eyes, that whole personality thing...thats good. I dont have to worry though, sometimes im mistaken for a greek god</p>
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My point is NOT that girls need to find short guys more attractive. Simply that when girls complain that men "are too superficial", they are really saying "the guy I'm attracted to for purely superficial reasons is too superficial." You cannot complain that men are only concerned with sexual attributes and then say-"oh, a guy has to be athletic, 6'2, solid build, blue eyes, etc." If you're superficial, say it! Don't pretend your criteria invloves things like intelligence (which is actually a turn-off to most women), sense of humor, etc.</p>
<p>I certainly have physcial preferences. But I have zero requirements, other than that a girl take physical care of herself. It's seems that girls are much more likely to have requirements. As women become older, some of this changes (I'm 22, and women DO become less superficial, there's hope for the guys who aren't NCAA athletes).
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<p>You just said so much truth that I couldn't help but form a huge smile. :D</p>
<p>My friends are kind of having trouble right now because my guy friend feels that our friend that is a girl does exactly what you are saying but she feels she doesn't. He can't stand how shallow she is, and then she talks about other girls and how shallow they are. But she says she is only 17 and not looking to get married so it doesn't matter. </p>
<p>I don't argue with her but how does age excuse being superficial. I feel that you can be as superficial as you want, but always remember superficiality attracts superficial people. And when a guy hit it and quit it so fast that your left in the bedroom with your panties around your ankles with a dumb look on your face don't complain about how hes such a player and did you so wrong.</p>
<p>You asked for it.</p>
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<p>Is intelligence really a turnoff to most women?? Ugh, if there's one thing I can't stand, it's a stupid guy.</p>
<p>I think that is probably wrong. I mean yeah it makes sense how stupid girls like stupid guys, but girls that arent stupid like smart ones. Not nerdy, but smart.</p>
<p>Cheerleaders go with Jocks. (dumb and dumb stereotypically)
and then the rest like smart ones, would be a good assumption.</p>
<p>I hate stupid girls. There. Who wants to be with someone who is so gullible they fall for everything, and that can't engage in a valid political, religious or philosophical converstation. I especially hate religiously stupid girls who act religiously smart.</p>
<p>Like one who says they are Christian or whatnot, and tries to say Christian things, quote their bible teacher/ pastor, but in reality, they've never really read the book so there word is crap (Im a Christian and Ive read the good book twice, so i can tell when people talk christianity from the bible, or christianity from sunday school).</p>
<p>But yeah, in the end, my whole point is that dumb girls are terrible.</p>
<p>I will say that I am SOMEWHAT superficial. I have to be attracted to a guy to want to get to know him better. However, what attracts me to guys is different in different cases. The two guys I've dated since I started college are completely different except the fact that they're both complete nerds (although one hides it much better than the other). Pretty much my only relatively strict criteria is that a guy is taller than me. I don't have alot of other requirements but that is something I just about won't budge on. I'm a tall girl, it would just be weird if the guy was shorter than me. I have kissed people shorter than me before, it's weird being the one who has to lean down. Oh, and I don't want someone obese... I'm not opposed to someone who's a little pudgy, because I'm not super skinny myself, but obesity is just kinda gross when you're gonna get naked with someone. </p>
<p>Personally, I think guys are alot more superficial than girls. I see hot girls with ugly dudes all the time, but how often do you really see an ugly girl with a hot guy? Like, never, right? </p>
<p>Oh, and btw, I would not go for someone stupid just because they were hot. That's ridiculous. Smart guys are so much better (however, if you're super-smart but just flat out butt-ugly there's nothing I can do about that).</p>
<p>i know, smart people are way better than dumb ones.<br>
The best quote for a smart person to say to a dumb person who is mean to them is... " You can be my gardener when im president"</p>
<p>Anyway, there is nothing wrong with wanting someone taller than you. That is typical. All guys (normal ones) want one just as tall or shorter. </p>
<p>and yes. Obesity is gross.</p>
<p>yeah,
I hear you AUlostgirl.
Again, I'm speaking from the perspective of a reasonably good looking (although I'm no Brad Pitt), relatively athletic guy. So when I get frustrated that a girl doesn't like me, usually it's a girl who is at least a 7 or 8 on the looks scale. We all wan't what we can't have. If I can only get 6's and 7's, I'll be mad that I can't get 8's and 9's, and complain that "they're too superficial about height" or whatever else. So I'm guilty of the same thing as many females.</p>
<p>I do have a friend who is 5'3, and NOT good looking, and has a gorgeous girlfriend (who is petite herself). He's just very charming and a great song writer. It happens, but I think it's the exception not the rule.</p>
<p>yeah, i'm a moderately short girl- 5'5". and as long as a guy is taller than myself, i have no issue with them. however, i think to put a absolute req. on ANY element of dating is ridiculous. from a cursory glance, we all have a "type" that we are attracted too, but once you actually meet people, i think i'm as varied they come.
and whoever said girl's don't like smart guys, is an idiot. I have NEVER met a woman who said "he's SO hott...if only he was just a little more of a moron"</p>
<p>i personally think intelligence (right after humor) if the most important factor to attribute to attraction. i've never dated someone i thought was less intelligent than myself, thats such a turn-off.</p>
<p>ps. wutang, i only read this thread cause i liked your screename so much.</p>
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<p>I agree with you.</p>
<p>It's just, for whatever girls might say about their "ideal man" being 6'2 with green eyes and a golden tan, if they find someone who's the complete opposite of that but is still relatively attractive and decently smart, they still will most likely go for the guy. I've had a thing for blond hair and blue eyes for years, but the last two guys I dated were a brunet white guy and a hispanic guy. But ALL the time I see guys who steadily date a stream of girls who all look pretty much the same: short, blond, and skinny. Not to say anything bad about short, blond, skinny girls but what about the tall, brunette/red-head, average sized girls? Give us a chance, will ya?</p>
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<p>Actually your just about average height for girl in the US. Average male height is 5'9''-5'10''.</p>
<p>Uh, well in regards to the original posted question, 5'9" sounds like an excellent height to me (of course, that could be because I'm 5'3"). In fact, I'm much less inclined to date someone over 6'0" than I would someone who was 5'9"... there is indeed such as thing as too tall. Of course, personality comes first when I consider a relationship with someone; but yeah, for hookups 5'8" to 6'0" is best, with 5'10" being my favorite guy-height. </p>
<p>So yeah, I guess not all girls like giants is the basic answer to your question :D</p>
<p>short guys-I found the answer!
go for hot hispanic girls. trust me.
pz</p>