<p>I honestly dont care about that at all (although sometimes too big or fake looking dont exactly appeal to me). I would never turn down someone for that though.</p>
<p>Im not sure what made my post reasonable, but thanks for the compliment. Yeah, i just think you cant look for specifics. When someone looks good they look good. Just cause they dont fit into a prototype doesnt mean you could never date them.</p>
<p>Well plus people get better looking once you start dating them (actually we spent a whole day on the topic in AP psych) or whatever...like when someone starts to go out with a good friend who was pretty, after a while she becomes gorgeous.</p>
<p>Anyway, yeah i just try to not set standards (or unrealistic ones for that matter). But i mean i do set ones like, i wont date a girl who smells bad, doesnt take care of their face, that doesnt smile, etc. But those are things nobody likes unless they are weirdos with weird fetishes...ugghhh.</p>
<p>Actually, i think im starting to like this thread. or at least this last page...yeah im turnin around the whole topic/mood of the thread.</p>
<p>Honestly, Smurfgirl is expressing a preference that MANY girls have. I actually appreciate she was honest enough to admit it instead of saying "all I care about is personality." Well, I care as much about looks as personality. No, I don't have any set requirement, and I would never write off half the population of women because "I only date burnettes" or something silly like that. The fact is, many women will not date a good looking short guy EVEN if they're attracted to him, simply because they are insecure about what their friends will say.</p>
<p>W/o a pic, I can't say whether or not I would date Smurfgirl....</p>
<p>wutang... i just saw ur picture, and i was like "woah, this whole time i though maybe he was chinese or somethin because of his name". haha</p>
<p>Oh and i cant wait...by the end of this day, i will be a senior member...yeah.</p>
<p>what's so bad about being shallow? People are shallow deal with it.
Yeah personality counts, but it's not everything. just accept being shallow.
I am shallow (to an extent). I wish people would just accept the human condition instead of trying to deny it's existence through stuff like "beauty is in the eye of the beholder' or thinking that personality should always come first. I like personality, but looks are also important.</p>
<p>Secondly ... why is personality any different from beauty? Do you think people have a choice in their personality. What if someone was mistreated as a kid or is an introvert ... is that their fault? No... so even judging by personality has it's flaws</p>
<p>"I will find a beautiful girl beautiful, regardless of all standards."
is an inherently flawed statement, beauty is itself a standard.</p>
<p>I'm not saying personality shouldn't count, I'm saying people will be attracted to who they choose, there's no overcoming it ... and there is no way any person should have to feel that they need to be attracted to people based on a certain characteristic (personality or anything else)</p>
<p>...it means regardless of what i find ideal. I could give off a list of what i thought were ideal physical features, but good looking girls who dont fit the ideal bill are still good looking aside from what i am generally interested in.</p>
<p>Also, dont revive dead threads in attempts to bring up argumements.
I mean maybe if you really need info that was being asked, but thats it.</p>
<p>I'm a girl and I'm five foot eight. I hate it. I like a guy to be taller than me or the same height. I'm surprised that people give you crap for 5'9". That's not short at all, really.</p>
<p><em>You</em> hate being five eight? Don't even go there honey. :-P</p>
<p>At least you don't have to get your pants hemmed.
At least you can wear gauchos without looking even shorter.
At least you can wear capris without it looking like regular pants.
At least you don't need a stepstool to reach the top part of your closet in your dorm room.
At least you can wear flats, whereas my flip-flops have to have some chunkiness to them.</p>
<p>I'm so jealous! :-P</p>
<p>I'm 5'6 and still need to get my jeans hemmed. It's incredibly annoying.</p>
<p>lol, smurfgirl! I think there are two sides to each...</p>
<p>I may not have to get my pants hemmed, but try finding pants long enough for my long legs. It's not flood season in Chicagoland, let me tell you.
I may be able to reach the top shelves, but I have to smoosh myself into some of my friends little cars.
I may be able to wear flats, but I can't wear heels.
And, this is irrelevent, but I hate gauchos anyway...I think they're horribly ugly. XD</p>
<p>The nice thing about being short is that all of the problems are things that can't be remedied...I can't add more fabric to the bottoms of my jeans to make them longer. I can't shrink a bit to fit in my friends cars. :) And, I'm sure people tell you this all the time, but, you have to option to wear chunkier shoes or high heels to make you a bit taller. There are no shoes that make me shorter...XD</p>
<p>Anyway, for me, it just comes down to...the fact that guys seem to think shorter girls are more feminine. How do you guys feel about that?</p>
<p>Shorter girls do seem more feminine, but 5'8 isn't so bad either. Girls over 5'10 look weird to me though.</p>
<p>I think 5'8 is a great height. I kinda like it when girls are 5'7-5'8.</p>
<p>At least you don't need a stepstool to reach the top part of your closet in your dorm room.</p>
<p>Haha, at the beginning of the year, our beds were raised with the dressers under them. The beds were so high, I had to stand on my desk chair every day to make my bed. I lowered it pretty quickly after that! (I moved the dresser into the closet to serve as a permanent stepstool for reaching the top shelf). </p>
<p>I think I'd almost rather be 5'8. More feminine or not, being short also makes you look younger. I'm almost 21, yet I get carded every time I try to see a R-rated movie or board a plane (apparently, if you're under the age of 16, you need a parental consent form).</p>
<p>Wutang...if you are still checking this thread....there is hope for you! I met my 5'9" husband in college...(a former boyfriend was 6'2") I stand 5'4"...I think my husband is THE perfect height....much better than kinking my neck trying to reach the T-rex I had before. Of course, my husband was charming as all get out...he has never thought of himself as "short" and therefore, I never thought of him as being so either. Short is a mindset...stop ruminating on it and start looking for that perfect girl. Good luck!</p>
<p>Aww, thanks BIGTWIX. And OaksMom, that's such a nice post. I hope the OP is still looking at this thread!</p>
<p>Wow, and I thought being 6'4" was kinda annoying. I can see where people are coming from with the short thing but, I HOPE TO GOD I DON'T GET ANY TALLER. (Though I'm only 17, and am still growing and will probably max at 6'6" to 6'7", NOOOOOOOOOOO!) I wish I was 6'1" to 6'2". I think that is the perfect height (taller is usually better for anyone heavily into sports) for normal life circumstances. You still look taller than the average guy which is attractive to some girls, but it doesn't become a hindrance to your life. </p>
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The nice thing about being short is that all of the problems are things that can't be remedied...I can't add more fabric to the bottoms of my jeans to make them longer. I can't shrink a bit to fit in my friends cars. And, I'm sure people tell you this all the time, but, you have to option to wear chunkier shoes or high heels to make you a bit taller. There are no shoes that make me shorter...XD
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<p>I already have some of the problems that ohthunderbelle mentioned earlier but in a guy version.</p>
<p>Do you know how annoying it is to find size 15 shoes in the store in the shoe you want. (and before you say I have abnormally large feet, no one has ever said that I have big feet when they see them "naked" or when I have shoes on, they only notice when they see the shoe by itself because when they see my feet alone they are proportionate to my body, so they don't look out of whack, feet have to be proportionate to your body to a degree) </p>
<p>Or to crouch down and cramp into your friends car. </p>
<p>Or hitting your head on things sometimes. </p>
<p>Or needing extra leg room on planes, cars, etc.</p>
<p>Or people ALWAYS bringing it up, as a convo. starter.</p>
<p>If I'm with a girl shorter than 5'8" to 5'9" it looks very weird.</p>
<p>Awkward positioning to hug shorter girls. (Usually bump them in some way)</p>
<p>Being too short can be fixed, being too tall can't. Count your blessings.</p>
<p>^My dad is 6'5 and my mom is around 5'5. I don't think it looks "very weird," but maybe I'm just used to it.</p>
<p>If your mom has a commanding presence, or is more serious, or doesn't mention her height a lot, it is hardly noticeable. But I've noticed when girls are all cutesy and kiddish it becomes VERY noticeable. Like a grown man with a little girl.</p>
<p>That would make sense, yes. (Cutesy and kiddish is the polar opposite of my mom... :eek:)</p>
<p>Kenshinsan, wow this is funny.
As i read ur post, i found it funny that two of the things you have problems with are the same with me.</p>
<p>Well, Im 5'10, but i have huge feet.
I am currently wearing size 13.5, and my toes touch the ends (im like a size 14 now).</p>
<p>Also, as of today (june 11) i am 17.
And lastly, i always need extra leg room in cars and planes and stuff, but not because i have long legs or whatever. Its cause i have restless leg syndrome.</p>
<p>But yeah, i just thought it was funny that i suffer from two of the same things you suffer from because of your height. haha.</p>