<p>^uh, you're wrong Alex. And I don't see hot girls with ugly guys, or short guys unless they're celebrities. This is a myth perpetuated by ugly, short guys. Girls care as much about looks as guys, and are actually stricter about following their guidelines.</p>
<p>"Women are attracted to certain attributes of a man, not related to looks. Women typically look for guys that will be good providers for them, and there future children (Guys with Money. Guys that know where they are going, and know exactly how to get there. Guys that are confident. Guys that can make them have a good time(laugh))."</p>
<p>yes, i learned that in psychology. but guys, throughout history (and even today), abused women, SO i expected girls to like really weak, lovely, inexperienced man who THEY KNOW can't hurt anyone.</p>
<p>incubation, seclusion breeds beauty, people! example: some of aristocratic women of all ages, asiatic royalty, etc.</p>
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<p>Well, Wutang, the solution is clear.</p>
<p>Either date uglier chicks, or shorter ones.</p>
<p>Funny and hot cut it for a one night stand...but if that's the best you've got...maybe you are destined for a life of perpetual bachelordom.</p>
<p>Wutang, I don't understand why you are so concerned. You are obviously able to attract women. Now it is a matter of finding the one for you. Why do you want to be with a woman who doesn't like you?</p>
<p>I'm 5'9" and have always been the awkwardly tall girl, so ideally I look for a guy who's taller than me-- but that's my weird 'thing'. Someone once asked me what if I met someone absolutely amazing who was much shorter than me-- I'd probably suck it up and stop wearing heels, I don't know.</p>
<p>veganactress=---- stalker + wierd + gayyyyy as hell</p>
<p>haha, thanks.</p>
<p>Didn't read the rest of the thread but...</p>
<p>I'm 5'4" and my boyfriend is only 5'8". He's not that much taller than me, not really. But it's personality that counts the most. Trust me, short guys don't need to feel insecure about their height. You're not even short. Just be confident.</p>
<p>I'm most certainly not incorrect.</p>
<p>If you don't see hott girls with ugly guys, you're living under a rock. There is no doubt about it, girls simply DO NOT care as much about looks as guys. Period.</p>
<p>Key words: care as much</p>
<p>DO NOT misinterpet those words as "do not care at all".</p>
<p>Again, to some extent, looks matter; but not nearly as much as personality.</p>
<p>Cheers,
Alex</p>
<p>Yeah, they want a guy that looks cool in front of their friends. They want a guy with no ambition that they can have fun with.</p>
<p>are you sure you mean ambition, and not inhibition?</p>
<p>I'm a 6'3"-6'4" guy, I will admit girls like my height. Obviously being taller doesn't make you any more of a man, but perhaps there is a perception that it does. Plus, long legs don't just look good on chicks. If I wear the right jeans, I get some looks. But yea, girls really have to be 5'3" or taller for me because otherwise its just too weird.</p>
<p>It's not really the fact that they look cool in front of their friends. It's the fact that they ARE cool, and know it. They don't have to try and "look" cool. If it's one thing I've learned through dating, it's that girls hate a fake guy. You had better be what you are pretending to be.</p>
<p>BTW, being cool involves being the following:</p>
<p>1) Confident; you don't need anyone to tell you how cool you are.</p>
<p>2) Self Assuring; you're the only person whose opinion upon yourself matters. When you say something, don't go back on it; girls HATE (Absolutely Hate) liars. If she can't depend on you while you are dating, do you really think she will want anything more?</p>
<p>3) Decisive; when asked a question, you don't say Uhm... Ugh.... Eghh.... You know what you want to do IMMDEDIATLY.</p>
<p>4) Funny; make her laugh, and you're in. Just make sure it is a genuine laugh and not a "Oh, how pathetic I don't want to hurt his feelings so I'll laugh", type laugh. </p>
<p>Also, if you are dog ugly, it's probably because you dress bad. Anyone can look half way decent in the right clothes. Get one of your female friends to take you shopping. Trust me, they'll love it, it won't be weird at all. :D :D :D</p>
<p>Last point is so effing superficial I love it. I wear Nike tshirts and shorts. Is that the most attractive and flashy? No. Is it comfortable? Yes. Can I afford more expensive clothes? Yup. Why should I succomb to others' perception of style when I have my 'own'?</p>
<p>I'd rather not be with the girl who wants the douche with his pink polo, collar up anyway...</p>
<p>To AlexGFK^Uh, did you get that from an internet pick up guide? Do you actually get girls?</p>
<p>That stuff comprises at most, 15% of a guys desirability. My issue was not that girls find me repulsive, simply that most girls seem taller than me with heels and the guys are all at least 6'2. Height is an insurmountable barrier for many women. Many studies have been done on this. No amount of confidence can change that. Zero. The guys that get the most, hottest girls of my friends are classicaly handsome and over 6'. They don't need to read pick up guides.</p>
<p>Where did I say I read pickup guides?</p>
<p>This all comes from experience. Something you seem to be lacking in? It's pretty much common sense that a girl would rather be with a confident short guy than an insecure tall guy.</p>
<p>What's so absurd about my statement?</p>
<p>Also, loslo, you shouldn't, but don't be surprised when girls judge your clothes before the judge you. I think it's pretty cool you have your own style.</p>
<p>That's fine. I dont want someone who judges me based on not wearing expensive clothes. Kinda ridiculous if you ask me.</p>
<p>he didn't say "expensive clothes", he said the "right" clothes.</p>
<p>meaning, clothes that appropriately fit YOUR style. if i like a guy in a pink polo with the collar up, it's not because he's wearing a pink polo with the collar up, but because that outfit is his own style. if your style is a tee shirt and jeans, and that best accentuates who you are, then that's good.
the main thing is to look like who you are. your clothes DO, to an extent, show your personality, so make sure your style reflects you! you, and not your lack of desire to do laundry, or buy shirts newer than the ones you've worn since high school. ;)</p>
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<p>meaning, clothes that appropriately fit YOUR style. if i like a guy in a pink polo with the collar up, it's not because he's wearing a pink polo with the collar up, but because that outfit is his own style. if your style is a tee shirt and jeans, and that best accentuates who you are, then that's good. the main thing is to look like who you are. your clothes DO, to an extent, show your personality, so make sure your style reflects you! you, and not your lack of desire to do laundry, or buy shirts newer than the ones you've worn since high school.
i couldn't have said it better myself. you shouldn't synonymize "expensive" and "nice" clothes. i can get a shirt that looks nice and fits me well for under $20. granted, there are a LOT of clothes are great but way outside of my budget, but i don't use that as my excuse to not get other, good looking clothes that really express who i am. it's fine if that's your "own" style, but again, you shouldn't think that dressing well is some sort of conformity...done correctly, dressing well is really the exact opposite of that.</p>
<p>and on top of that, it's not uncomfortable. not comfortable enough to sleep in or anything, but in my opinion, if you're going out in clothes that you could (almost) sleep in or lounge around the house, you're probably not in the best clothes to go out :p.</p>
<p>"being cool involves being the following:</p>
<p>1) Confident; you don't need anyone to tell you how cool you are.</p>
<p>2) Self Assuring; you're the only person whose opinion upon yourself matters. When you say something, don't go back on it; girls HATE (Absolutely Hate) liars. If she can't depend on you while you are dating, do you really think she will want anything more?</p>
<p>3) Decisive; when asked a question, you don't say Uhm... Ugh.... Eghh.... You know what you want to do IMMDEDIATLY.</p>
<p>4) Funny; make her laugh, and you're in. Just make sure it is a genuine laugh and not a "Oh, how pathetic I don't want to hurt his feelings so I'll laugh", type laugh. "</p>
<p>this is why girls are still being abused and they don't even care. why do people idealize an assertive, aggressive muscular man? if i were a girl, i'd prefer the total opposite. a guy who is weak and needs to be taken care of.</p>
<p>and on clothes...i don't think people really pay attention to clothes these days more than to a person's looks and height. i mean, there are so many kinds of clothese that u kind of become numb to various styles. of course, anyone who's in the true au dernier cri fashion ought to attract fascination.</p>
<p>i'm just curious. where is the fashion capital today? italy? paris? new york? spain?</p>