<p>Hey Papa you are the man for compiling the numbers here.......I guess your fantasy baseball league is winding down?</p>
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<p>Nah. Look at the SAT figures in post#80. College Prep = 1437. Many others >1270.</p>
<p>Stuyvesant High School, elite urban public, class size ~750, average SAT ~1430. Matriculation data, class of 2005, listing only schools that four or more Stuy grads attended:</p>
<p>SUNY: 109
Albany 4
Binghampton 47
Buffalo 8
Geneseo 1
FIT 1
Stonybrook 48</p>
<p>CUNY: 66
Baruch 22
Brooklyn 12
City College 13
Hunter 8
Queens 4
Sophie Davis Biomed 7</p>
<p>Cornell 35
Columbia 33
NYU 33
CMU 25
UMich 19
Dartmouth 18
Princeton 13
McGill 13
St. John's U 13
MIT 11
RPI 10
WUSTL 10
Wesleyan 10
JHU 9
Wellsley 9
Fordham 9
Georgetown 9
Williams 7
Yale 7
Penn 7
Harvard 7
GWU 7
Bard 7
Barnard 6
BU 6
Cooper Union 6
Middlebury 6
U of Chicago 6
Syracuse 6
Vassar 6
Rutgers 5
UC Berkeley 5
Boston College 5
Polytech 5
Bryn Mawr 5
Bowdoin 5
Pomona 4
Amherst - 4
Brown 4
NYIT 4
RIT 4
UDelaware 4
UMaryland 4
URochester 4</p>
<p>As you can see, it's quite a mixed bag. Of the Ivies, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth and Princeton generally like us and Harvard, Yale, Brown and Penn don't. No one really knows why.</p>
<p>pyroclastic, about stuyvesant sending so many to those 4: could it be stuy students (primarily a math/science gifted school although I understand kids at such a school would have a wide range of interests) prefer to apply to Princeton and Cornell for their engineering, and Columbia because they'll stay in NYC (Dartmouth I don't know). They send a lot to top engineering schools, like MIT, CMU, RPI and Cooper so it might follow for P and C engineering??</p>
<p>Seniors/ SAT comb/ % Ivy,SM + SWAP in Top 20/ % In-State in Top 20
124 / ~1340 / 28% / 3% </p>
<p>1 Penn 34
2 Cornell 20
3 Brown 17
4 Georgetown 15
5 Princeton 14
6 Columbia 13
6 Harvard 13
6 NYU 13
9 Boston U 12
9 Bucknell 12
9 Dartmouth 12
12 Boston C 10
12 Colgate 10
12 Lehigh 10
12 Yale 10
16 U Ricmond 9
17 Duke 8
17 Hamilton 8
19 F&M 7
19 Stanford 7
19 Wash U 7</p>
<p>1 USC 12
2 UC Davis 8
3 UC Berk 5
4 UC LA 4
4 UC SD 4
4 U Denver 4
7 Stanford 3
7 Boston U 3
7 Loyola Marymount 3
10 UC Santa Cruz 2
10 Santa Clara 2
10 U San Fran 2
10 U Colorado 2
10 US Naval 2
10 Carleton 2
10 Cornell 2
10 Rice 2
10 U Puget Sound 2</p>
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<p>So we have something to go on other than just G-Town Prep's numbers, here's the more popular colleges for graduates of St. Sebastian's, Needham, MA, a small Catholic boys school. Out of 286 graduates-</p>
<p>1) Boston College (40)
2) College of the Holy Cross (19)
3) Fairfield University (18)
4) Providence College (13)
6) Georgetown University (9)
6) Villanova University (9)
8) Northeastern University (8)
8) Harvard University (8)
14) Hobart & William Smith College (6)
14) Loyola College, Maryland (6)
14) St. Michaels College (6)
14) University of Notre Dame (6)
14) Bowdoin College (6)
14) Connecticut College (6)
19) Middlebury College (5)
19) Lehigh University (5)
19) Bentley College (5)
19) Colby College (5)
19) Boston University (5)
20) University of New Hampshire (4)</p>
<p>Point Loma HS, CA, 2005
1.San Diego State University- 50
2.Grossmont College-20
3.Mesa College- 19
4.City College- 15
5.Harvard- 1?</p>
<p>1 Georgetown University (4)
1 Vassar College (4)
3 Cornell University (3)
3 Princeton University (3)
3 Trinity College (3)
3 Yale University (3)
7 Carnegie Mellon University (2)
7 Columbia University (2)
7 Davidson College (2)
7 Duke University (2)
7 George Washington University (2)
7 New York University (2)
7 University of Maryland, College Park (2)
7 University of Notre Dame (2)
7 University of Vermont (2)
7 University of Virginia (2)
7 Washington University (2)
7 Williams College (2)</p>
<p>73 in the class</p>
<p>1 New York University (5)
1 University of Rhode Island (5)
3 Haverford College (4)
4 Babson College (3)
4 The Catholic University of America (3)
4 Dickinson College (3)
4 United States Naval Academy (3)
4 Wheaton College (3)
9 Boston University (2)
9 Carnegie Mellon University (2)
9 Connecticut College (2)
9 The George Washington University (2)
9 McGill University (2)
9 Quinnipiac University (2)
9 Saint Anselm College (2)
9 Syracuse University (2)
9 Tulane University (2)</p>
<p>80 in class</p>
<p>interesting that not more Jesuit/Cath schools in this Top 17 list</p>
<p>1 University of Maryland, College Park (13)
2 Dickinson College (5)
3 Bucknell University (4)
3 University of Wisconsin Madison (4)
3 Vanderbilt University (4)
6 Carnegie Mellon University (3)
6 Gettysburg College (3)
6 Harvard University (3)
6 Syracuse University (3)
6 Towson University (3)
6 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (3)
6 University of Pennsylvania (3)
6 Virginia Polytechnic Institute (3)
6 West Virginia University (3)
15 Boston University (2)
15 Emory University (2)
15 George Washington University (2)
15 Georgetown University (2)
15 Hamilton College (2)
15 Indiana University Bloomington (2)
15 Northeastern University (2)
15 Pennsylvania State University (2)
15 Tulane University (2)
15 University of Connecticut (2)
15 University of Miami (2)
15 Washington College (2)
15 Williams College (2)</p>
<p>131 in class</p>
<p>Class size: 75<br>
% Ivy, Stanford, MIT, + SWAP in Top 20: 36% </p>
<p>1 Brown *( 40 )
2 Princeton *( 27 )
3 Yale *( 18 )
4 Oberlin *( 16 )
4 Univ. of Michigan *( 16 )
4 Wesleyan *( 16 )
7 Dartmouth *( 15 )
7 Univ. of Chicago *( 15 )
9 Amherst College *( 13 )
10 Harvard *( 12 )
11 New York University *( 10 )
12 Bard *( 9 )
13 Vassar *( 8 )
14 Barnard *( 7 )
14 Sarah Lawrence *( 7 )
14 Skidmore *( 7 )
17 Bowdoin *( 6 )
18 Cornell *( 5 )
18 R.I. School of Design *( 5 )
18 Stanford *( 5 )
18 Wellesley *( 5 )</p>
<p>of note: Deep Springs (1)</p>
<p>Class size: 44 (calculated from 5 year applicants)<br>
% Ivy, Stanford, MIT, + SWAP in Top 20: 46% </p>
<p>1 Harvard College 18
1 Yale University 17
3 Princeton University 12
4 University of Chicago 11
5 Brown University 9
5 Cornell University 9
5 Dartmouth College 9
5 University of Pennsylvania 9
9 Oberlin College 7
9 Wesleyan University 7
11 Barnard College 6
12 Carleton College 5
12 Columbia University 5
14 Bates College 4
14 Duke University 4
14 Georgetown University 4
14 The Johns Hopkins University 4
14 Swarthmore College 4
14 Williams College 4
20 American University 3
20 Bryn Mawr College 3
20 Colby College 3
20 Macalester College 3
20 Pomona College 3
20 Sarah Lawrence College 3
20 Stanford University 3
20 University of St. Andrews (Scotland) 3</p>
<p>Swarthmore finally made a Top 20 list! Along with Pomona & Williams.</p>
<p>Germantown Friends Schopol - Philadelphia (5 yr data)
1.University of Pennsylvania 54
2.University of Chicago 14
3.New York University 14
4.Brown University 13
5.Oberlin College 13
6.Columbia University 12
7.Cornell University 10
8.Wesleyan University 10
9.Kenyon College 9
10.Princeton University 9
11.Barnard College 8
12.Temple University 8
13.Drexel University 7
14.Harvard University 7
15.University of Michigan 7
16.Tufts University 7
17.Vassar College 7
18.Yale University 7
19.McGill University (Canada) 6
20. Boston University 5
21.Connecticut College 5
22.George Washington University 5
23.Northwestern University 5
24.Washington University 5
25.Bowdoin College 4
26.Case Western Reserve University 4
27.Colorado College 4
28.Franklin and Marshall College 4
29.Middlebury College 4
30.RISD - Rhode Island School of Design 4
31.Smith College 4
32.Stanford University 4
33.University of Delaware 4
34.University of Wisconsin 4
35.Amherst College 3
36.Bryn Mawr College 3
37.Carleton College 3
39.Clark University 3
40.Dartmouth University 3
41.Davidson College 3
42.Duke University 3
43.Emerson College 3
44.Emory University 3</p>
<p>Papa chicken--two theories I have on the elite Catholic schools such as Portsmouth and others with which I am familiar
First theory--By the time they are ready to apply for College they are totally burned out on Catholic theology, many bordering on atheism. Ultimately they usually return to full practicing Catholic but in the meantime they put the faith through a rigorous questioning and exposure to our secular society.
Second theory is similar to a socio economic class theory. As each immigrant group came through, they strove to be accepted by the Anglo Saxon wasp group/cultural elite. So you have the seventh generation, now wealthy and very intelligent Irish kids trying to go Ivy or top 50, Italians doing the same, Slavic etc. Hence, many elite HS educated look down their noses at the more elite Catholic colleges/universities and wouldn't attend as that continues to remind them of their background. Reverse snobbism almost.</p>
<p>I love how my public school on the MainLine has better stats than these privies: 25 National Merit Semifi (most in PA)</p>
<p>Look us up: Conestoga High School.</p>
<p>Rice_boy-- thanks for pointing out Conestoga, haven't found much info for publics.....good placement for the top of the class, with a very different profile overall & lower SATs on average as you'd expect & a wide array of college matriculations, particularly in-state options.</p>
<p>Interesting school profile for those interested. Breaks down matriculation list by 6 different GPA groups with associated SAT scores:
<a href="http://www.tesd.k12.pa.us/stoga/profile.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.tesd.k12.pa.us/stoga/profile.pdf</a></p>
<p>Class size: 441<br>
% Ivy, Stanford, MIT, + SWAP in Top 20: 2%<br>
SAT combined V+M: 1152<br>
90% matriculate to 4-year colleges</p>
<p>1 Penn State 59
2 Temple 16
3 NYU 10
4 Drexel 9
4 U Pittsburgh 9
4 James Madison 9
7 West Chester 8
8 U Penn 7
9 Johns Hopkins 6
9 U Delaware 6
9 Villanova 6
12 Boston U 5
13 Elon 4
13 George Washington 4
13 Tulane 4
13 U Md 4
17 College of William & Mary 3
17 Emory 3
17 Oberlin 3
17 UVa 3
17 Skidmore 3
17 College od Charleton 3
17 Syracuse 3
17 U Miami 3
17 Catholic U 3
17 East Carolina 3
17 U Vermont 3
17 Indiana U of Pa 3</p>
<p>Thanks, guys. The college list in the Conestoga profile may be the most interesting thing I've ever read on College Confidential.</p>
<p>I would point out that the average SAT schoolwide is high, so this is not representative of a typical public high school, but may be fairly typical of College Confidential high schools.</p>
<p>The breakdown by class rank is fascinating. Not hard to spot some "hooks" - like the Williams admit not in the top 12% of the class or the Duke admit not in the top third of the class.</p>
<p>Usually Stuy has about 20 students each going to HYPM. This year was harsh for some reason.</p>
<p>Tiresome intellectual elitism. Could you post the PhD statistics one more time? I hope Swat grads have more compassion for human beings (and colleges) of different endowments.</p>