Top Schools for Direct MD Medicine Admission

<p>I've come across some Universities providing direct addmission to MD programs like Brown etc. But I have not seen any list of ranking such degree program.</p>

<p>Is it possible for people to add the schools they know provide such programm and can rank these on the following basis:</p>

<p>Undergrad Program Standing
MD Program Standing
Length of Combined Program 6 - 8 years.</p>

<p>Like I was able to find the Brown Informations as
Undergrad Program Standing : Top 10
MD Program Standing : 30 - 40
Length of Combined Program : 8 years</p>

<p>CalTech - UCSD</p>

<p>Undergrad Program Standing : Top 5
MD Program Standing : 30 - 40
Length of Combined Program : 8 years</p>

<p>Name - # accept each year
website
undergrad USNWR rank
med USNWR rank
years to complete program</p>

<p>Brown PLME - 50
<a href="http://bms.brown.edu/plme/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://bms.brown.edu/plme/&lt;/a>
15
38
8</p>

<p>Caltech/UCSD Medical Scholars - 6
<a href="http://www.admissions.caltech.edu/learning/premed%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.admissions.caltech.edu/learning/premed&lt;/a>
4
14
8</p>

<p>Northwestern HPME - 30
<a href="http://www.wcas.northwestern.edu/advising/hpme.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.wcas.northwestern.edu/advising/hpme.html&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.medschool.northwestern.edu/hpme/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.medschool.northwestern.edu/hpme/&lt;/a>
14
20
7-8</p>

<p>Rice/Baylor Medical Scholars - 15
<a href="http://www.futureowls.rice.edu/futureowls/RiceBaylorIndex.asp%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.futureowls.rice.edu/futureowls/RiceBaylorIndex.asp&lt;/a>
17
10
8</p>

<p>WUStL University Scholars - ?
<a href="http://admissions.wustl.edu/admissions/ua.nsf/3rd%20Level%20Pages_USP_USP_medicine.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://admissions.wustl.edu/admissions/ua.nsf/3rd%20Level%20Pages_USP_USP_medicine.htm&lt;/a>
12
4
8</p>

<p>UCSD Medical Scholars - 12 <a href="http://meded.ucsd.edu/groups/med-scholars/index.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://meded.ucsd.edu/groups/med-scholars/index.html&lt;/a>
38
14
8</p>

<p>USC Baccalaureate/MD - 30
<a href="http://www.usc.edu/schools/medicine/education/degrees_programs/mdp/bamd.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.usc.edu/schools/medicine/education/degrees_programs/mdp/bamd.html&lt;/a>
27
36
8</p>

<p>Tufts Engineering Medical Degrees (BS/MS/MD) - ?
<a href="http://www.tufts.edu/med/education/mddual/mdmsengineering.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.tufts.edu/med/education/mddual/mdmsengineering.html&lt;/a>
27
42
8</p>

<p>Google and search the forums more.
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=66167&page=7%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=66167&page=7&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Vanderbilt University - ENGAGE (Medicine) - ~2
<a href="http://www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/medschool/admissions/early_engage.php%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/medschool/admissions/early_engage.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Thanks Chronicidal, that was a great help</p>

<p>The most important thing is to get into one program. All of the Medical schools that you mentioned are very good. It does not matter which one you go to because you will get a good education at all of these.Twenty years from now, when you are taking someone's gallbladder out they will not care if you went to Baylor Medical School or Tufts.</p>

<p>That's a bit naive, don't you think? One could argue that any institution in the US will provide a "good education." The fact of the matter is employers look for top of the line students from top tier med schools.</p>

<p>Avant...you couldn't be more wrong. Oldperson is exactly right.</p>

<p>There are only 125 medical schools in the US. All will provide the knowledge, experiences and skills necessary for a student to become a doctor. Given that the first time pass rate on Step 1 of the USMLE exam is 93% of US second years and that 93% of US fourth years successfully placed into residency programs through the Match (most students that don't match have wrongly apply without a plan B to highly competitive fields like Derm or ophthalmology), the data shows going to a US medical school, ANY US medical school will place you solidly into the job market. </p>

<p>I can tell you from first hand experience, a great deal of medical education is aimed squarely at getting students prepared for USMLE step exams. There are few places in education where "teaching to the test" is as a blatant, unadulterated and down right demanded by students, than medical education.</p>

<p>While students who wish to go into Academic medicine (with its emphasis on research) may be better served by going to more highly recognized research centers, the average patient doesn't care, nor think to ask where their physician completed their education or training. In fact, because of the disconnect between highly ranked (at least by USNWR, which rankings are even more suspect for medical schools than most of their others), and the highly ranked undergrad institutions, patients would likely scoff at doctors who went places like UCSF, WUStL, Baylor, and certainly state schools like Iowa and Washington, even though these are highly respected within the medical community. And there is certainly an argument that could be made that residency training location is more important than medical school. Given my most recent experience with friends who are M4's, I can tell you, at least anecdotally, most M4's were looking far more towards geography than seeking out that #1 residency program.</p>

<p>^^ That's absolutely correct. I had a chance to talk with few residents & UCLA Med students @Malibu, and more recently with an orthodontist (UofMD trained) & the consensus is that there's absolutely no difference in quality of doctors from an old bama medical school to JHU medical school. Heck, as far as money making potential is concerned, the orthontist (UMd undergrad, UMd dental) is best known around here and has been raking in some jaw-dropping amount of money. Yes, he's making more coins than a neurosurgeon @Mercy.</p>

<p>At Wustl you are almost granted a spot in their Medical School if you do pre-med there</p>

<p>^^^^</p>

<p>Definitely NOT true.</p>

<p>Given that WUStL is probably the most difficult medical school to get into, simply based on their average incoming MCAT score, which is nearly a 36 (= to greater than the 95%ile), simply going to WashU for undergrad guarantees you nothing for medical school.</p>

<p>There are some schools that do "look out for their own" but even that is a mild bump. Medical school admissions are simply too competitive for schools to take obviously lesser candidates when better applicants are available.</p>

<p>Because the cirriculum for med schools is so tightly regulated, there is very little difference in terms of educational quality between med schools. This doesn't mean there's no difference between med schools since they still differ in location, research, prestige, etc. but if you want to become a good doctor, you will be able to do that at any med school. When it comes to garnering residency positions, the prestige of your med school won't be nearly as important as your grades and board scores.</p>

<p>Cal-Tech/UCSD</p>

<p>Big red med</p>

<p>The admission officer that came to our school said that if you do pre-med at WUSTL you have like a 90% chance of being able to continue with your medical studies....who knows?</p>

<p>That's different from you have a 90% chance of getting into THEIR med school (which is ranked #4 in the country).</p>

<p>There's a big (huge really) difference between "continuing with your medical studies" (which most certainly means going to med school SOMEWHERE) and having a 90% chance of getting into WashU's medical school.</p>