Top Ten most Prestigious Public Universities

College Search & Selection
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<p>Actually, US News Peer Assessment Ratings seem to be based primarily on selectivity. But, the PA is, most of all, a composite of many factors. Faculty publications contribute only a little to PA.</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/721414-wisdom-us-news-peer-assessment-rating.html?highlight=Peer[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/721414-wisdom-us-news-peer-assessment-rating.html?highlight=Peer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/412606-how-calculate-universities-peer-assessment-score.html?highlight=Peer[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/412606-how-calculate-universities-peer-assessment-score.html?highlight=Peer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>what about we rank them by how High School Counselors perceive them? haha
dang this ranking system sucks by US News, some high school counselors must be stupid.</p>

<p>University of California–Berkeley Berkeley, CA 9 4.7
University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 17 4.6
University of Michigan–Ann Arbor Ann Arbor, MI 20 4.5
University of North Carolina–Chapel Hill Chapel Hill, NC 20 4.5
College of William and Mary Williamsburg, VA 25 4.4
Georgia Institute of Technology Atlanta, GA 25 4.4
University of California–Los Angeles Los Angeles, CA 25 4.4
Purdue University–West Lafayette West Lafayette, IN 34 4.2
University of California–Davis Davis, CA 34 4.2
University of Minnesota–Twin Cities Minneapolis, MN 34 4.2
University of Wisconsin–Madison Madison, WI 34 4.2
Missouri University of Science & Technology Rolla, MO 45 4.1
Pennsylvania State University–University Park University Park, PA 45 4.1
Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey–New Brunswick Piscataway, NJ 45 4.1
Texas A&M University–College Station College Station, TX 45 4.1
University of California–Irvine Irvine, CA 45 4.1
University of California–San Diego La Jolla, CA 45 4.1
University of Illinois–Urbana-Champaign Champaign, IL 45 4.1
University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 45 4.1
University of Texas–Austin Austin, TX 45 4.1
Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA 45 4.1
Auburn University Auburn University, AL 58 4.0
Miami University–Oxford Oxford, OH 58 4.0
Ohio State University–Columbus Columbus, OH 58 4.0
University of Iowa Iowa City, IA 58 4.0
University of Massachusetts–Amherst Amherst, MA 58 4.0
University of Washington Seattle, WA 58 4.0
Clemson University Clemson, SC 73 3.9
Colorado School of Mines Golden, CO 73 3.9
Indiana University–Bloomington Bloomington, IN 73 3.9
Michigan State University East Lansing, MI 73 3.9
Michigan Technological University Houghton, MI 73 3.9
North Carolina State University–Raleigh Raleigh, NC 73 3.9
University of California–Santa Barbara Santa Barbara, CA 73 3.9
University of Connecticut Storrs, CT 73 3.9
University of Florida Gainesville, FL 73 3.9
University of Maryland–College Park College Park, MD 73 3.9
University of Pittsburgh Pittsburgh, PA 73 3.9</p>

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<p>They are HS counselors–most of them are not too smart.</p>

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<p>barrons,
I agree that the HS counselor world doesn’t have great knowledge, but their “rankings” don’t seem completely off to me when looked at like this:</p>

<p>RATING OF 4.7
UC Berkeley</p>

<p>RATING OF 4.6
U Virginia </p>

<p>RATING OF 4.5
U Michigan, U North Carolina</p>

<p>RATING OF 4.4
William & Mary, Georgia Tech, UCLA</p>

<p>RATING OF 4.2
Purdue, UC Davis, U Minnesota, U Wisconsin</p>

<p>RATING OF 4.1
U Missouri, Penn State, Rutgers, Texas A&M, UC Irvine, UCSD, U Illinois, U Kansas, U Texas, Virginia Tech</p>

<p>RATING OF 4.0
Auburn, Miami U, Ohio State, U Iowa, U Massachusetts, U Washington</p>

<p>RATING OF 3.9
Clemson, Colorado School of Mines, Indiana U, Michigan State, Michigan Tech, NC State, UC Santa Barbara, U Connecticut, U Florida, U Maryland, U Pittsburgh</p>

<p>There are a few changes I’d make, but is this really that far off the mark for undergraduate education? Not research activity, but what the student gets when he/she attends the school? I’d move a few schools up (eg, W&M, Georgia Tech, Clemson, U Maryland, U Florida, others) and a few down (eg, U Minnesota, Rutgers, UCSB, U Connecticut, others), but generally IMO, most aren’t off by more than a 0.1.</p>

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<p>Hawkette – I agree…I find the counselor ratings (along with the peer scores and graduation/retention rates relative to selectivity) most telling.</p>

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<p>UC-Berkeley, UCLA, UVa, UNC, Michigan, Georgia Tech, W&M, Wisconsin, Texas, Illinois</p>

<p>There ya go. (In no specific order)</p>

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<p><a href=“http://cds.berkeley.edu/pdfs/PDF%20wBOOKMARKS%2009-10.pdf[/url]”>http://cds.berkeley.edu/pdfs/PDF%20wBOOKMARKS%2009-10.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://cds.berkeley.edu/pdfs/PDF%20wBOOKMARKS%2008-09.pdf[/url]”>http://cds.berkeley.edu/pdfs/PDF%20wBOOKMARKS%2008-09.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://cds.berkeley.edu/pdfs/PDF%20wBOOKMARKS%2007-08.pdf[/url]”>http://cds.berkeley.edu/pdfs/PDF%20wBOOKMARKS%2007-08.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>The six year graduation rate for the class that entered in 2003 is 90 percent. For the class that entered in 2002, 89.6 percent. For the class that entered in 2001, 88.1 percent. In each entering class, ~10+ percent of students, or between 360-460, take longer than 6 years to graduate.</p>

<p>Which is why to me the words “prestigious” and “public university” seem at odds with one another when so many students fall through the cracks.</p>

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<p>kwu, 90% graduation rate is good, even by private university standards. Below are some other universities with similar graduation rates:</p>

<p>University of Chicago: 92%
Johns Hopkins University: 91%
Vanderbilt University: 89%
Caltech: 88%
Emory University: 88%</p>

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<p>Some of that missing 10% are transfers out or stopped college. For a large diverse public 90% is an excellent number.</p>

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<p>My list in no direct order would be</p>

<p>Michigan
Berkeley
UCLA
William and Mary
UNC
UVA
UIUC
Uwisconsin
Texas
Some other good state school.</p>

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<p>This is foolish. They’re all good/great schools. Who cares what undergrad school you went to after a year or two in the marketplace?</p>

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<p>^great point</p>

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<p>maryland college park!</p>

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<p>1) Berkeley (UCSF), unmatched here.</p>

<p>2) Michigan, Wisconsin Madison</p>

<p>4) UIUC, UCLA</p>

<p>6) Texas-Austin</p>

<p>7) UCSD, Washington-Seatle, Minnesota</p>

<p>10) UNC-Chapel Hill, Penn State, Maryland-College Park, Ohio State, Purdue, Indiana-Bloomington, U Virginia, Georgia-Tech.</p>

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<p>Faculty members selected into national academy of sciences (NAS)
<a href=“http://www.nasonline.org/site/Dir/1547591914?pg=rslts[/url]”>http://www.nasonline.org/site/Dir/1547591914?pg=rslts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Berkeley (130)</p>

<p>UCSD (65)</p>

<p>University of Washington (45)
Wisconsin-Madison (41)</p>

<p>UCLA (34)</p>

<p>Michigan (29)
UIUC (26)</p>

<p>Texas-Austin (15)
Maryland (14)
Minnesota (13)
Penn State (13)
Indiana-Bloomington (11)
UNC (10)</p>

<p>U Virginia (4)
Purdue (2)
Georgia Tech (1)</p>

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<p>Faculty members selected into national academy of engineering (NAE)</p>

<p>Berkeley (78)</p>

<p>Texas-Austin (48)</p>

<p>UIUC (29)
Georgia Tech (26)
Michigan (21)
UCSD (20)</p>

<p>Wisconsin (19)
UCLA (19)
Purdue (18)
University of Washington (16)
Minnesota (16)
Maryland (14)
Ohio State (11)
U Virginia (11)</p>

<p>Penn State (9)
UNC (5)
Indiana-Bloomington (1)</p>

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<p>I really doubt if Clemson has any faculty in NAE but our dean of engineering is on the National Science board which is appointed by President Obama and I’m pretty sure we have a better undergraduate engineering program than Indiana or UNC (which don’t have undergrad engineering)</p>

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<p>^ Clemson has one NAE member according to the NAE member directory: [Members</a> By Parent Institution](<a href=“http://www.nae.edu/nae/naepub.nsf/members%20by%20parent%20institutionc?OpenView&Start=30]Members”>http://www.nae.edu/nae/naepub.nsf/members%20by%20parent%20institutionc?OpenView&Start=30)</p>

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<p>^except the listed member is retired and no longer works at Clemson haha</p>

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<p>When looking at NAS memberships, you also have to take into account the fact that having an associated medical school on the same campus heavily drives the numbers. With that being said, Berkeley (and MIT as a private) are absolute monster exceptions in this regard, but outside of them there is typically a correlation.</p>

<p>In the case of UT-Austin, for example, UT Southwestern Medical School in Dallas actually has more NAS members than the Austin campus.</p>