<p>if the ED pool has an average SAT score of 1380… when someone comes on this board with say… a 1340, everyone tears them apart with how small of a chance they have. understood of course, but is it viable to say that for every 1500 taken, there needs to be a 1260? of course there are other factors in the application, but for that average to exist there has to be a wide range of sat scores accepted right?</p>
<p>… RIGHT?</p>
<p>Very true. If you look at the Columbia boards, the people who got accepted seem to have significantly lower sats than those who got D/R. It's kinda weird, but the typical deferred app on the boards had like a 1500, and the typical accepted applicant had like a 1380-1400. So yes, there are many other factors besides sat.</p>
<p>once i got to penn i realized that not everyone here had a 1500+ and i find it ridiculous when people are like "you don't have 1550+ so no chance whatsoever." I know people here at penn with sat's ranging from like 1200 to 1600. Personally I had a 1300. I got ripped apart last year. People need to realize that one test score doesn't mean anything. One of my best friends here at wharton is brilliant he has a 4.0 GPA (which is really really really rare in wharton), he had a 1380. Some of the dumbest kids I've met here had like 1550+. I don't care what a **** ing test says --- it means jack sh it in the college or in the real world.</p>
<p>You have to remember though that early decisions include all athletes and legacies. This drags down the average SAT school dramatically.</p>
<p>bern700... you and ben franklin are my newest homeboys</p>
<p>see u at the button</p>
<p>Yea, i definitely agree with you. Not everyone at Ivys has like 1500+, they really do look to include different types of students. For some ppl their SATs are the strength and in others its the character expressed on the app and in the essays. So yea i'd def don't think that chances are lost if you got a 1300 on the SAT's.</p>
<p>Yeah obviously it's not the be-all end-all...but also understand that if you do have a lower SAT score there has to be some other part of your application that compensates for that lower score.</p>
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<p>I'm a third generation legacy with a 1400... which is right in the average. We don't all drag it down :P</p>
<p>Although the average for the pool of <em>applicants</em> is 1380, the average for last year's <em>admitted</em> class was 1431.</p>
<p>Well, people with lower stats tend to be accepted ED more likely than RD, b/c all students who didn't get into Harvard Yale and Princeton apply RD to Penn. So their stats def. increase the overall average. It would make sense that the ED average would be 1380.</p>
<p>oh I know anzanar. I applied early to Penn with a 1550 and 3 800s on SAT2s and I'm a legacy. I 'm just saying in general legacies can pull down the SAT score.</p>
<p>thanx, i feel so confident now with my 1400 :)</p>
<p>I told my friend that the average score was 1380... and he had a 1370.</p>
<p>I had to convince him that that means half the applicants are where he is or lower before he went completely crazy...</p>
<p>lol.</p>
<p>lol silly kids. the fact that the average APPLICANT gots a 1383 doesn't mean anything. it's not like half those applicants get in. only 30% do.. and only 26% for wharton! so i mean...it dun matter what the average APPLICANT sat is..it matters what the average ACCEPTEE(is that a word? i duno, im kinda high...)'s SAT is</p>
<p>just thought i'd point that out. i sure as hell hope that SAT1 dun matter for a lot though, I think it's the weakest part of my app...!</p>
<p>very true...</p>
<p>way to read between the lines</p>
<p>Legacies on the whole usually have a slightly higher SAT than most regular admits anyway. It has a lot to do with athletes believe it or not.</p>
<p>Is it possible that an applicant with a below average SAT score puts more effort into his or her application (essays, etc.)? Whereas someone with a 1500+ SAT score thinks he or she may be guaranteed admission to one of these institutions, so he or she puts less effort into their overall application.</p>
<p>Just a thought. Respond.</p>
<p>Remember... thats the sat score of the average applicant. the average accepted is 30 points higher....</p>
<p>I'm happy with my 1470....</p>
<p>Another thing to remember is that not all kids are submitting SAT scores as their primary test score. Yes, most applicants tend to be from the east coast or other SAT regions, however there are still plenty of students applying from ACT regions... I am from the midwest and my ACT score was outstanding, my SAT score was nothing special... I submitted both though, trusting that they do take your best score. Therefore, my SAT score probably brought down the "applicant average" a tiny bit, but it wasn't the one they were using to admit me anyway. This was all last year, and now I am a happy freshmen at Penn.</p>