<p>just curious.
I went through the threads and saw so many 2300+ rejects.</p>
<p>probably recruited athletes, URMs, and (possibly) legacies</p>
<p>my friend, who’s a legacy, was accepted with a 1980 and a 31 ACT</p>
<p>without a special connection like a legacy or being a recruited athlete?
URM is okay</p>
<p>1900 SAT, over represented minority, great rank at a tough school, okay ECs, got into CAS.
not me, someone I know.</p>
<p>I’m applying RD to UPenn. Anyone think it’s possible to get in with a 1890 SAT?</p>
<p>I am low income. I am from Africa (Egypt). I live in NY. I’m not an athlete and have no legacy. My GPA is 94.3% (3.9) .</p>
<p>“my friend, who’s a legacy, was accepted with a 1980 and a 31 ACT”</p>
<p>Well I guess legacy works somewhere. Not in my neighborhood. I know 4 legacy kids from bigname schools with 35/36 ACT scores and top-level grades. The schools were Penn, Stanford, Duke, and Chicago. All 4 kids got bounced on ED/EA applications. The Chicago dad has donated a quarter million, and his boy was a National Merit scholar with a 3.95 GPA from a top private high school.</p>
<p>I think I saw a couple in the ED decision thread…the one that stood out was a guy who got in with like a 1800 but he was fourth generation legacy and from the looks of it came from an extremely wealthy family that had contributed a significant amount of money.</p>
<p>@Silence: It wouldn’t hurt to retake it in January and rush your scores. People generally do better the second time. Also, take the ACT. I found it to be easier than SAT and Penn accept’s that as well. But remember the importance of essays. As it has been shown in the decisions thread, perfect scores aren’t going to guarantee you a spot in Penn. A strong, unique essay you can pull you up in a sea of 2300’s and valedictorians.</p>
<p>I know one guy who got in RD with a 1960. Indian male, bio major, not amazing grades. But he went to Central HS, which is a really good magnet school in Philly that Penn accepts from.</p>
<p>I’m not sure if any of you will even believe this because I know I didn’t when I first heard it, but a URM from my high school got a full ride ED through questbridge with a 1700 and 2 APs…</p>
<p>@whartongrad: I think you are referring to me in your post 
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<p>I got in with a pretty low SAT (1780) but I am a development case as I am 4th generation and my family has donated a significant amount of money over the past few decades.</p>
<p>^ and you took the spot of some more worth candidates…</p>
<p>@haloshots - I would say that your statement is rather subjective/harsh. I agree that from a “stats” perspective bradford93’s is not as “worthy” as other candidates…however, as I’ve mentioned in other posts, these development candidates (despite their lower stats) can be extremely “worthy.” Their contributions allow others to attend with great financial aid, their contributions help improve Penn’s facilities, etc. Plus they are amazing resources for current students…again as I’ve previously mentioned one of the, if not the most, valuable things that I got from my 4 years at Penn was the network of well connected people. If I want to start a business I know a lot of wealthy multi-millionaire and billionaires that can fund me, if I want expand my business into Nicaragua or Turkey or wherever I can call up friends who are some of the richest folks in those countries to suppory my expansion, if I want to secure licensing, etc. for my business I can have one my contacts call up their good family friend - X senator to help expedite my process, etc. </p>
<p>seriously don’t discount the worth of someone because of their stats…once you’re in the real working world you’ll realize that the most successful people are generally not the smartest…they are usually people that are charismatic, have great leadership and people skills, work hard and are extremely well connected. </p>
<p>I think admitting these development cases is one of the most important things that schools like Penn need to continue to do…also once you’re at Penn you’ll realize that there are A LOT of people there (i.e. a very large percent of each class) that is there because they are some sort of development case and most don’t have the stats - just like bradford. Seriously I was initially shocked with how many people were like this at penn - at least a good 15-20% of the student body.</p>
<p>yea bradford, you are definitely the exception
Congrats on getting in…You aren’t “unworthy” as haloshot seems to suggest.</p>
<p>@Silence1113 If you want to retake it, then you should
If you don’t want to I think that you still have a chance, just make sure the rest of your application (like essays, recommendations, and ECs) are really strong.</p>
<p>Good luck!!</p>
<p>I earned a 2030 on the SATs and a 31 on the ACTs; on SAT IIs, I got a 730 in chem and a 720 in bio. I am not a legacy, I am caucasian, I am from a lower income bracket (~60K), and from a poorly-funded, “bad” public school. I think my passion and teachers’ confidence helped immensely. Try your best, don’t focus too much on the scores, and do not let anyone tell you “no!”</p>