Transcript Forgery Concerns (Serious Inquiry)

<p>Perhaps the high school doesn't even know that he applied to these colleges. Years ago at Yale there was a student who did something like this...he created an entirely fake identity, rented a post office box to use as the high school address, made fake transcripts, recs, the works. He was only found out because he enrolled in a very tough Directed Studies program and stopped going to class. Sooner or later, something like this will come out.
One possibility for this kid would be for him to simply withdraw the applications from those schools, take a gap year, and apply to new colleges with legitimate documents.</p>

<p>Hunt's solution is definitely the best! If he comes clean, he'll tarnish his own reputation despite his change of heart. If he stays illegitimate, he might face expulsion. Either way, he'd ruin his life. The best thing is to withdraw and apply next year. Way to go Hunt!</p>

<p>"The only thing that was different was that the school mails its envelopes with an automated postal system called neopost, which prints an orange coded stamp over the envelope. He informs me that the stamp he used was a regular one. He thinks (and I agree) that this is the only way that they would spot his dishonesty.</p>

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<li>swimcatsmom- Do colleges request official transcripts from the school after admission is offered? Do they send that request directly to the school? If this is the case, he may be found out. I think he was unaware of this. If the college contacts the high school, he will be found out.</li>
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<p>Is it common for colleges to contact high schools after admission is offered to screen against falsified documents? Do they do that for every student, or only for cases in which they suspect forgery.</p>

<p>Barring their suspicion over the regular stamp instead of the automated one, there would be no reason for them to suspect anything. His falsified grades are consistent with his SAT score, so it isn't like he represented a 4.5 with a low SAT score.</p>

<p>My main question is whether or not the colleges will find out on their own, specifically by requesting a transcript DIRECTLY from the school that he will be unable to intercept and falsify. It seems to me that is the only way he will be caught on his own.</p>

<p>I do not want to involve the principle at this time, because she is known to be extremely vindictive and harsh."</p>

<p>Principle, not principal. And the bolded directly, another vote for OP as the culprit. Regardless, the kid should do what hunt said and withdraw his apps. If you are so indignant and outraged and want to ruin his life then go to the police and make sure that he never can be succesful ever again. But, if he withdraws his apps he still has a chance to learn from this without completely killing his future. Looking over your shoulder for the rest of your life waiting for this transgression to come back and haunt you is no way to live. I think if he's smart he should go to a school he legitimately applied to or the local comm. college and ace things there and transfer somewhere with his excellent SAT score.</p>

<p>I too am beginning to feel that the OP is the culprit. Why else would he write such a huge post?</p>

<p>And most importantly: Why in the name of <insert name="" of="" american="" pop="" culture="" icon=""> would the "culprit" tell the OP exactly how he forged the stuff? Wouldn't the "culprit" know that the OP would tell his dad (considering they're pals)?</insert></p>

<p>Also, how did the OP figure out that the "culprit" had forged the document when he looked at only the original?</p>

<p>Exactly. Why in the name of <madonna> would the culprit describe in such exacting detail, how he managed to forge his documents? </madonna></p>

<p>If I'd been busted while committing fraud, my first impulse would be to deny it and failing that, to keep my mouth shut. I wouldn't go about telling my dad's pal how I did it. It's not like doing so would endear him to my actions. </p>

<p>P.S. CCers really are suspicious of other CCers!</p>

<p>look at the guy's name. c0ncerneddad62? are you kidding me? and then he uses the wrong version of principal, not principle! Just read the post he's musing out loud, wondering whether its worth it just to keep his mouth shut and hope no1 will notice or whether he should pull the plug on his fraud.</p>

<p>lol. I can bet OP is the actual student and culprit. Just two many clues given away by him to suggest he committed the fraud.</p>

<p>I first read this yesterday a second after you posted this, but I didn't realize this until now...if the high school finds out they can and might fail him and not let him graduate..there is zero tolerance</p>

<p>This is hilarious, the poster is clearly the perp. What I don't get is this: at my son's high school, the transcript is sent by the school in a large envelope with another sheet explaining the school's courses, grading policy, etc. The guidance counselor's rec goes in the same envelope and they are mailed together. Don't other schools do it that way?</p>

<p>Hit the kid with your car. It's your only option. </p>

<p>Seriously, blackmail is awesome. Try it.</p>

<p>It seems strange after all this creativity the kid would then make a mistake and send it to you. Also, seems like a low probability of success given the other stuff that would have to match and be in the packet. On the other hand, for some reason sleazy folks can get away with stuff that most of the rest of society cannot.</p>

<p>The kid is clever than most, that much I will admit.</p>

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Do colleges request official transcripts from the school after admission is offered?

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<p>Yes, a final transcript is sent from the high school over the summer as proof the student successfully completed high school.</p>

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Do they send that request directly to the school?

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<p>Yes. the high school sends the transcripts directly to the college. </p>

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Is it common for colleges to contact high schools after admission is offered ?

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<p>many colleges send the list of applicants and the decisions back to the high school. Every GC that does college admissions gets a copy. Any counselor worth his/her salt has a list of students and the schools that they applied to. They are also going to know who they sent out paperwork for and it will not be hard to flag if a school shows up and the GC has no record of sending out paperwork.</p>

<p>Two Options</p>

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<li><p>Ignore this and hopefully karma will come back to haunt him and end his education/career</p></li>
<li><p>Send a simple phone call from a payphone into college admissions telling them that bla bla loser had possibly faked his transcript. The college will take over and do whatever they like. You'll sleep soundly at night knowing that you help out another deserving kid who should be accepted over a self-serving lunatic.</p></li>
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<p>Not sure if OP is the perpetrator.</p>

<p>If you're who you say you are, why do you have to wonder or worry about what the schools will do with this kid? </p>

<p>I'd request a meeting with yourself, the kid, and his dad. Let the kid then tell his dad what he did. Then you're done with it. Whatever they decide to do is their business. I would not go anonymously to his schools...that's not your concern. Alerting his parent IS your responsibility.</p>

<p>I think it's pretty irrelevant whether the OP is lying about who did it. What matters is that whoever did it doesn't realize that there is no way they can get away with this forever. As was previously mentioned, even if they get away with it through the admissions process, or college, or graduate school, or even after getting a really good job, this can come back to bite the perpetrator in the butt. People can have their degrees revoked and be fired for doing something like this and have it get discovered years later.</p>

<p>For the guilty party's own good, the truth must come out now. If the guilty party is a friend's son, tell the parents and let them decide. If it's your son, tell him to come clean or you will for him. If it's you, just come clean. I'm not saying you're not telling the truth, just considering the possibility.</p>

<p>OP most likely did it.
Some people are saying that schools send out the transcripts along with GC rec, etc. At mine, they just hand us an official transcript and we mail it ourselves. Just saying.</p>

<p>^ Marilee Jones of MIT seems to come to mind...</p>

<p>DOES IT MATTER if the OP did it?</p>

<p>No. Point is whoever did it needs to fess up now before he is caught. While clever, this stunt is not easy to pull. There are millions of ways the plan can go wrong.</p>

<p>Talk to the kid before making any decision.</p>