Transfer Chances from Dartmouth

Transfer Students
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<p>Hello,</p>

<p>I'm currently a freshman at Dartmouth, and I am discovering that this is not the school for me. I'm applying to Brown, Columbia, and Penn so far. My top choice right now is Brown. Here are my "stats" (I feel like I'm selling myself):
HS:
4.0 UW GPA (Valedictorian)
5 AP classes (score of "5" in each one)
SAT I: 2230 (800m 700v 730w)
SAT II: 800 780
National Merit Scholarship</p>

<p>College:
3.91 GPA + citation honor from a professor
Extras: music (percussion ensembles, individual study of multiple instruments, sound engineering hobby), volunteer work from community centers to environmental education centers, will be volunteering for the Special Olympics this term, summer programs at JHU and in Norway</p>

<p>think I will have at least one very good recommendation from the professor who gave me the citation.</p>

<p>So I guess I'm curious about my chances, and also about some other schools the apply to that may be easier to get into. However, I want to stay on the East Coast, be much nearer or in a city, and attend an institution that's not a step down academically.</p>

<p>Thanks for your time.</p>

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<p>Also wanted someone's opinion on the possibility of applying to NYU. Good idea? Thanks!</p>

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<p>Why do you want to leave Dartmouth? I'm interested in applying TO Dartmouth, and I was just wondering your reasons for wanting to get out. </p>

<p>Brown and Columbia are very hard to transfer into in general, unless you're an engineer, where Columbia might be a fit for you. Good essays could get you in considering you have a great academic past. Penn seems like more of a match than the other two. Really it depends what school within the universities you're applying to. I'll assume Arts and Sciences, where you should have very good chance at NYU.</p>

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<p>It is important to know your reasons for wanting to transfer. Is Dartmouth too rural, too easy, too much partying, too preppy, etc.? What do you intend to study?</p>

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<p>"attend an institution that's not a step down academically."</p>

<p>if he goes to NYU thats what he will be doing...taking a step down</p>

<p>the only colleges that are Dartmouth's peers are the rest of the ivies (which btw i think you have a great shot at) have you considered Stanford? U of Chicago? JHU? I see you spent a summer there could it be a school you would consider...it would help if we also knew what major you are interested in... that would really narrow down the list as well</p>

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<p>NYU's Stern business school and NYU's Tisch School of the Arts would not be a step down from Dartmouth. There are many schools to consider depending upon your reasons for transferring and your intended major.</p>

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<p>Your delusional.....I go to NYU Stern and I think we all know Nyu (while good) is no Dartmouth....</p>

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<p>No need to be rude. NYU's Stern has the best undergraduate finance dept. in the country. NYU's Tisch School is highly respected. Dartmouth is a great school, but it is also rumored to be a heavy preppy, drinking culture. This is fine for the work hard/play hard preppies, but it is not for everyone.</p>

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<p>Maybe that is what you should of said (dartmouth is not for everyone) in that case either is Nyu...Also NYU does not have the best finance dept in the country...Upenn Wharton does</p>

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<p>Sorry I forgot about my reasons for transferring!</p>

<p>Dartmouth's social life revolves around fraternities. If you like greek life, as I thought I would, Dartmouth is great. But I personally find the frats gross, exclusive, and overrated. Going and waiting for a long time for a frat brother to give me a cup of crappy beer is not my idea of a good time. Yes, there are concerts as the Hopkins Center and occasionally other events put on by the school, but the frats still rule to an unfortunate extent.</p>

<p>Dartmouth is also very into itself. Its emphasis on tradition and its isolation make it a very provincial place. If you like the Dartmouth way, you will love it here because there is really nothing else to distract you. But if you don't, there's no underground.</p>

<p>And while I have been very happy with the academics here, the music scene here is a joke. I was placed in the "musician's dorm" but I have yet to meet more than 5 people in it who are musically inclined. I'm planning to major in psychology or philosophy or anthropology or the humanities (undecided, as you can see), and I also am working on pre-med requirements.</p>

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<p>so, I want to be in a city where I don't feel trapped by my school, and I want a place with a good music scene.
Oh yeah, I'm applying to Columbia College, and CAS at Penn.</p>

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<p>Could someone also suggest some decent "backup" schools?
Thanks!</p>

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<p>tufts? they have a decent music program, and of course boston is wonderful.... oberlin is great musically, and i'm sure you would get in, but isolated. still, there is a lot buzzing there, especially when it comes to music. if you're looking for a city, maybe georgetown? or george washington university? others that come to mind: u of chicago, northwestern, amherst, pomona, university of michigan...</p>

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<p>Well, you should know that NYU's Philosophy Department is ranked #1 in the entire English speaking world, yes people, ranked higher than Harvard, Yale, OXford, Princeton and any other college you want to name...</p>

<p>For the humanties in general, both Columbia and NYU have excellent programs though obviously Columbia is generally considered more prestigious (what people think, doesn't mean it's actually better in many areas) unless you're studying Business at Stern or some creative major at Tisch.</p>

<p>Obviously its NYC so the music scene is pretty much one of the best, most dynamic and diverse you'll find anywhere in the world...</p>

<p>ixjunitxi,. I can't belive you go to Stern and you don't recognize it's reputation...If you ask the human resources dept. of any major financial firm in New York about Stern, they will absolutely tell you that they do not consider it any less prestigious than Dartmouth or Columbia or any other Ivy other than maybe Harvard..Stern undergrad and grad business programs are considered right up there with all the Ivies, within the business community...I know because I work for an entertainment hedge fund and do freelance work for a film prod. company in NYC.</p>

<p>Some info for you guys about NYU:</p>

<p>Quotes:</p>

<p>[Rankings]</p>

<p>According to the three most well-known university ranking systems, NYU is ranked:</p>

<p>34th among U.S. News and World Report's top 262 American "National Universities"</p>

<p>30th among Shanghai Jiao Tong University's world's top 500 universities</p>

<p>49th among Times Higher Education Supplement's world's top 200 universities </p>

<p>Regarding academic disciplines and programs:</p>

<p>NYU is ranked #11 in the social sciences among Shanghai Jiao Tong University's world's top 100 universities.</p>

<p>NYU is ranked #1 in Italian, finance, mathematics, and theater in the U.S. by the Faculty Scholarly Productivity Index, which uses data, such as faculty publications, grants, and honors and awards to rank 104 doctoral programs in 10 academic disciplines based on the research productivity of faculty members.</p>

<p>NYU's Stern School of Business undergraduate program is ranked among the top five in the U.S. Stern's MBA program is ranked among the top 15 in the U.S. and worldwide: #10 in U.S. News, #8 in Financial Times 2007, #14 in BusinessWeek,#8 in The Economist,and #2 by research contribution.</p>

<p>The School of Law is ranked #4 among law schools in the U.S. by U.S. News and World Report. The law school is particularly noted as the nation's top law school in tax law, international law, and jurisprudence (philosophy of law). </p>

<p>NYU's philosophy department is ranked #1 among 50 philosophy departments in the English-speaking world.</p>

<p>NYU's economics department is ranked #10 among 200 economics departments worldwide. NYU's Steinhardt School of Culture, Education and Human Development has one of the top 15 education programs in the U.S.</p>

<p>Several of NYU's Wagner Graduate School of Public Service's public affairs specialties are ranked in the top 10 in the U.S. by U.S. News and World Report. </p>

<p>The Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences is ranked #5 in citation impact worldwide, #12 in citation worldwide, and #1 in applied mathematics in the U.S. The Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences is also known for its research in pure mathematical areas, such as partial differential equations (Professors Peter Lax and S. R. Srinivasa Varadhan won the 2005 and 2007 Abel Prize respectively for their research in this area) as well as applied mathematical areas, such as computational biology and bioinformatics.</p>

<p>NYU's Tisch School of the Arts has produced more Academy Award winners than any other institution in the U.S. Currently Tisch is best known for its film, acting, and dance departments and is considered one of the most prestigious Fine Arts programs in the country.</p>

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<p>I recognize that stern is a great school with a great reputation and esp within the finance community...but anyone with a finance background will tell you that stern doesn't stack up (at least in the eyes of recruiters) against schools like Dartmouth....</p>

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<p>Truth13: Some other schools that you might consider are the University of Chicago, Northwestern University and, possibly, the Univ. of Wisconsin at Madison. Stanford is probably also a match school for you. Other options to investigate are Rice and Vanderbilt, although I do think that your best choices are your original selections of Columbia and Brown. In my opinion, Brown, socially speaking, is the opposite of Dartmouth. USC and UCLA also offer a different social climate than Dartmouth (although USC has many similarities socially, it's setting is urban rather than rural). For those who like Dartmouth-- and there is a lot to like-- you may want to consider Colgate, Bucknell, St. Lawrence University and Middlebury College.</p>

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<p>to me, rigorous academics + diversified social scene + city + decent music program = University of Chicago. obviously I'm biased, but the school might have stuff to offer you that D does not.</p>

<p>If you have questions about music at Chicago, PM the user Cosmos.</p>

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<p>icy, with a 1.5% transfer rate (= 20 people), I'm afraid Stanford isn't a match school for anyone.</p>

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<p>Thank you to everyone for your responses. It's good confirmation of what I intend to do.</p>

<p>But does anyone know of a good match where I would very likely be accepted on on the East Coast? I really like these East Coast cities. akt suggested Tufts, which i will look into. I've heard that maybe Vassar would be good?</p>

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<p>"I recognize that stern is a great school with a great reputation and esp within the finance community...but anyone with a finance background will tell you that stern doesn't stack up (at least in the eyes of recruiters) against schools like Dartmouth...."</p>

<p>When it comes to business, academic rankings aren't as important as connections and the alumni network. Many times it seems to come down to who you know rather than what you know. Dartmouth is a HUGE business feeder school </p>

<p>The</a> Wall Street Journal Classroom Edition This ranking is kind of flawed, but gives a good overview of what kind of schools have the most recruitment.</p>

<p>No doubt NYU has connections as well, but just pointing out where junti is coming from.</p>