<p>I am currently a sophomore at NYU's Stern School of Business and in good academic standing. I want to apply for transfer to UMCP's Smith School of Business for a variety of reasons, but mainly fit/environmental ones. How difficult would transferring into Smith as a junior be? I am a resident of Montgomery County. </p>
<p>My main question is this: I was accepted into UMCP and Smith when I applied as a freshman. I was also offered a spot in the Honors + Gemstone program and a scholarship. Can I still get these back if I transfer? If not Gemstone, can I still get into Honors? I technically accepted the invitation into Honors at the time, but that was before I turned down UMCP officially; even now, I still get email updates from Honors.</p>
<p>Another thing: I was about to start my application/reapplication online, but I noticed that my freshman application was still stored on CP's online database. So do I have to reapply? Assuming I'm in good academic standing at NYU, is it possible that CP would allow me to matriculate as a transfer student in the fall as long as I send in my academic records and deposit? I've noticed that large portions of the application are recommended but not required. Obviously, I would do the EC portion, but most likely not the essay; as far as I know, there was no mention of professor recommendations (which is good, since I'm studying abroad right now). Thus, is there any chance that I don't have to redo the entire application for CP (even though I know transferring is completely different from applying as a freshman applicant and all)?</p>
<p>Finally, should I transfer so late into my college years, especially since I already wasted 2 years of private tuition? I really, really want to transfer from NYU-Stern, and I know that CP and Smith are great schools. However, I don't like the idea of spending so much money at NYU yet not graduating from there.</p>
<p>i dont think i can answer your question, because i dont know.
But can a respond with a question?
What is the caliber of business oppurtunities (jobs) and business education at the stern school of business?
what about the grad school?
Also, isn't a business degree from stern stronger and will lead to higher paying jobs than a B degree from smith?</p>
<p>yoisser, star_star clearly stated that their reasons for transferring were fit of the school and surrounding environment. not everyone is motivated solely by "get the world's highest paying job" (thank god). believe it or not, not all business majors are in it for the money and an early retirement.
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<p>star_star: gemstone is a 4-year program, so no, you cannot get into that. you'd have to ask someone in honors about that program, but it would be tough for you to complete the citation requirements in 2 years. you could still enjoy the benefits of the program and its classes though.
i would assume you would have to redo your application since a transfer application is a different app. how long does an application really take to fill out though? don't let that stop you from transferring if you really want to :)</p>
<p>to answer your final question, i chose UMD over NYU mostly because of fit/environment reasons, so i definitely know how you feel. it's very different here! i say go for it. the money you've spent has hopefully been put towards credits that will transfer. and it will be 4 years of wasted money if you don't end up enjoying your college experience at NYU. plenty of people transfer as juniors.</p>
<p>Thanks for the responses. lindz, I'm glad you made the choice that was right for you. =) If I could do this over again, I would similarly choose other schools over NYU, for the atmosphere and for academics. However, at the time, I had a few offers from other colleges in addition to NYU and CP, and that sort of skewed my perceptions.</p>
<p>"What is the caliber of business oppurtunities (jobs) and business education at the stern school of business?
what about the grad school?
Also, isn't a business degree from stern stronger and will lead to higher paying jobs than a B degree from smith?"</p>
<p>I'm wondering this too, yoisser. Supposedly, Stern has great opportunities. I know all the top ibanks and accounting firms recruit at Stern. I have friends with internships during the school year, some with firms such as Morgan Stanley, Lehman, Merrill. Juniors have even more opportunities. However, I'm not sure if the best opportunities only go to the top students, or if everyone ends up with something decent. Another thing, a lot of Stern students have parents and relatives working in these firms. I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it. A large portion of my classmates are really competitive, and their accomplishments have not come without a lot of effort and sacrificed sleep. The social environment is really tense sometimes because of so much competition between students. (Stern doesn't really help much with recruiting, so people are on their own for the most part.) In short, I know a lot of people aren't happy here, including me. And personally, I'm sick of it.</p>
<p>That said, a large portion of Stern students do end up with great jobs with high salaries at renown business firms directly out of college. Does this happen with Smith students? My parents (and I) would be really disappointed if I transferred to a school that opened fewer doors, so to speak. This is pretty much the root of my hesitance to transfer.</p>
<p>You've got the right idea, star_star. At Smith, people do intern with top accounting and finance firms, but most don't have the goal of Wall Street (at least not right out of college). Many students from New York plan on going back, but there's a lot of opportunity in the DC area and some Smith students focus their career search locally.
Do a "large portion" of Smith students end up with great jobs at high salaries? No. But a decent portion does, and if you're willing to set yourself apart from the rest of the pack and seek out and chase after those opportunities, your Smith degree certainly will not hold you back.</p>
<p>To your points about social life... Smith is not as competitive. People still want to do well and will not sleep the night before an exam. But it doesn't affect the social environment. Even as a senior, people do not let their academics or job searching get in the way of their friendships and relationships with other students.</p>
<p>Thanks lindz. I'm not sure how "large" that portion that get the prestigious jobs are at Stern (people tend to brag so you really only know part of the story... haha). But recruiting is indeed really competitive. Most people who are not in the top quartile of Stern don't get much in terms of interviews, so I've heard. I really wish I learned this beforehand. I think Stern "oversold" itself to incoming freshmen.</p>
<p>But anyway, the competitive thing really affects social relationships. I feel like people are more into "networking" than friendships. And it's unfortunate that people will go to lengths to "network" and to beat the grading curve. So yeah, I've heard it pretty much comes down to that by junior and senior year; I don't really want to stay around for that to begin.</p>
<p>Most Stern students aren't thinking grad school, at least not anytime soon. I've always thought I'd go to grad school, but then my college experience over the last two years has turned me off to that plan... but hopefully that will change soon.</p>