<p>What are my chances of transferring to the above schools? I am currently a freshman at Stanford, with a first quarter GPA of 3.53 (a little weak, I know). I hope to get at least a 3.8-3.9 this quarter to boost the average up to a 3.75. </p>
<p>My activities here are not particularly strong--some volunteering, chess team, finance, a job, and founding member of a political organization on campus. My HS GPA was around 94.6, with a 1580 SAT. Any shot at all? </p>
<p>you have a stong HS record, your GPA is low at the moment, and if it gets to 3.75 its decent to apply. i dont know when ur planning on applying, for this coming year or the next, but you might have some difficulty if ur applying for this coming year.</p>
<p>also, theres that whole transferring from ivy to ivy thing that has been discussed in other threads (short explanation- it doesnt help ur chances).</p>
<p>1st off stanford isnt an ivy, but it is one of the best schools, which is what i think you were trying to get at. and no, i think its a misconception to think him going to stanford is going to play against him. i have heard from numerous sources that admissions for transfers takes into consideration the rigorousness of the university you are transferring from, it plays in your favor, not the other way around. however, you still should have a good reason for tranferring, and must convey this to admissions. people from harvard, stanford, yale, whatever, all could possibly have good reasons to transfer. reasons to transfer dont belong to those in lower level universities only.</p>
<p>youre right i meant top schools i dont know why i called it an ivy. anyway, though ur right about the whole rigorous program thing, the reason that there is a disadvantage is because, in general, there isnt as much of a REASON for a transfer from a top school to need to leave. theyre already at a top school where their academic potential is likely being fully utilized. conversely, qualified students at low tier and especially 2 year schools clearly have a true need to get greater academic resources. though you are right, a candidate from any of those top schools may have a great reason to transfer, in general the reasons arent as powerful as a candidate from other schools, esp. 2 years. im not saying it will necessarily hurt, it just generally wont help, and in some cases it might hurt, esp. if the story/reason to transfer is something like "i dont feel like a good fit here" for the top tier student, whereas the 2 year student has "i need more academic enrichment and i need to continue my education" as a reason.</p>
<p>I disagree with the whole not accepting applicants from other top schools thread. It's ridiculous!, they may say this but in practice they favor their own and like applicants. It's much easier with a good GPA to transfer from Stanford to lets say Harvard than it would be, with the same GPA to transfer from CC to Harvard. It's all about justification with transfer admission. You have a greater chance of proving that you'll be sucessful in a top school if you're coming from one. That's the reality, Northrams you've been mislead! Everyone has a good reason to transfer or they wouldn't be going through the process for the most part, if they didn't. It's like a job if you have experience handling the tasks your alot more competitive than if you don't. And just like in a job you've gotta go through a lot more to prove to an employer (adcom) that your a good risk if you haven't done the work before, than if you've for example spent a year(or what ever) at Stanford proving yourself and excelling at the tasks you'll need to be sucessful.
And SOOO Ivy's like their own as transfers, and for grad school, med. school, and law school applicants, and they've gotta alot less to prove to gain admission.</p>
<p>Anyway Intuitive-(ironic name), your a good applicant, but fall is competitive and you could do more, apply for spring bring up your GPA, increase experiance, inshort become more marketable. Good Luck.</p>
<p>that is simply not the case. a number of people apply for quite transient reasons, such as basing their decision solely on "reputation," because they havent actually made the effort to assimilate into their current school, etc.</p>
<p>"It's much easier with a good GPA to transfer from Stanford to lets say Harvard than it would be, with the same GPA to transfer from CC to Harvard. It's all about justification with transfer admission. You have a greater chance of proving that you'll be sucessful in a top school if you're coming from one. That's the reality, Northrams you've been mislead!" </p>
<p>no, i have not been mislead, and if you are so confident that i have been, id like to know where you get the information that is so incontravertable that it leads you to believe so. though you are correct in saying that someone at stanford would have a tougher course load than 98% of cc students, that simply does not translate into transfer acceptance. i have gleaned this information from conversations with numerous transfer experts and a few transfer admissions people at top schools. the fact is that they want people who both a) have been in a challenging program (i.e. a well respected cc honors program, or a well respected state school honors program), and b) will bring diversity of experience to the campus. </p>
<p>this is why an ivy or other top school transfer applicant MAY be in a hole. thought theyre from a tough program, they LIKELY wont bring any diversity of experience, while a student from an honors program at a lower ranked 4 year or a cc would have been in a fairly challenging program and bring much diversity of experience.</p>
<p>its not a solid rule that applies in every case, its just a general guide. and i am not saying that someone from a top school would not have a good reason to transfer, just that theres a better chance they wouldnt.</p>
<p>WHAT INFORMATION DO YOU HAVE THAT IS SO INCONTRIVERTIABLE ANYWAY?
A few chats with prospective canadites? some books you've taken a look at? Perhapse some phone calls and emails to admission's head's?--Trust me I've done all this, just as any responsible student interested in transfering would!<br>
You tend to favor information that suites your circumstance and that's fine, it's human infact, but to advise another baised on your own blatant bias is wrong-- SO I CORRECTED YOU. If you want support I can give it; I think you've got a very good shot at ending up at a top tier, despite coming from a CC. The 4.0 and exceptional high school record will enhance your chances, BUT because your coming from a CC you had to fight all the more to prove your the type of canidate Ivy's are looking for. YOU ASKED ME TO USE AN EXAMPLE, SO I'LL USE YOU! Would you feel as confident applying to those top tier's without such impresive stats? And if like Intuitive you where coming from Stanford, and found that another student with similar stats and reasons to transfer was your competition would you feel MORE or LESS confident about your chances to be accepted?
DO NOT DISCURAGE ANOTHER TO BETTER IMPROVE YOUR OWN WORTH. </p>
<p>*** If you read corectly you would see that I said everyone has a good reason for the most part, not definitivly. Now how they communicate that reason to an adcom is an entirely different matter. There are very few cases in which a particular student must attend attend a particular school.
What would be a excellent reason? If you don't get into said school will you die? will your flesh melt? will your family be ritually sacrificed? I can name no instance when this was the case. Can YOU? We are all here as transfers because we wish to better our circumstance, weather from Ivy-Ivy or CC-Ivy. We've looked around and found something lacking in our situation and are undertaking measures to make changes. Period Whose to say that their reason is best, baised purely on surface reasoning, are foulish. And don't say that because your in 2 year program at a CC which is coming to it's fanality you've GOT the good reason. It is an insentive to transfer ( I wil grant you that) and continue on with your studies, but no one ever said that that's gotta be at an Ivy.--Or that this endeavor has GOT to happen right away.
You can honestly say that the rule when it comes to cc transfer's is they've generally got more experiance and a greater diversified experiance? Just looking around at my college, and that's not the norm. In the last few decades there have been a larger and larger trend of adult learner going back to college, they are attending all varieties of institutions from cc's to Ivy', and as students who've been in the work force/had a family/ect. they've got a lot of experiance. They would be a member of the diverse group that top colleges are looking for. If your referring to them then colleges genuinly like to see an increase in their number, they tend to be more responsible and better equiped for the sacrifies a student needs to make. They would have the edge over an Ivy student with only a two years spent at university, but they do not make-up anyone varriety of applicant, and are not only applying from cc's.
Secondly, To make the case that you must attend a particular college is especially difficult because, (as you must know), America Universities and Colleges are becoming more and flexable, if the program you want is not at a given college, alot of times your given the option at that college/university, to design your own program major ect. Now this is not the case at my college, but I could just as easy apply to state, design a major, and graduate with a degree.-But I want alittle more, as is my right! Just as you (or anyone) has the right if their not happy (in life as in college) to improve their situation, and if that means trying to study at another institution then thats their/your/my option.----Don't bother my further with this nonsense I'm busy!</p>
<p>let me start off by saying that if you seriously think that i have EVER, in my over 130 posts, given advice in order to benefit ME you are SORELY mistaken. i have only given advice that i believe to be true. AND I NEVER SAID IT WAS INCONTRIVERTABLE, NOR DID I SAY THAT IT APPLIED IN EVERY CASE, I ONLY SAID IT WAS FROM REPUTABLE SOURCES. now if you have such a self image problem that you cannot deal with someone politely disagreeing with you BASED ON INFORMATION THAT IS AT LEAST AS SOLID AS WHAT YOU HAVE, i suggest you stop posting! it is not an excuse for you to question my motives, insult me, and denigrate the advice i am giving. for someone who has literally just begun posting on this website to insult someone who has been impartially giving advice for quite some time based on a disagreement over something so unimportant is ridiculous.</p>
<p>as for the facts, you cannot argue that IN GENERAL, NOT IN ALL CASES, someone who is intelligent enough to go to an ivy or tier 1 would have more of a need or reason to transfer from a non ivy or tier 1 than from another one, simply because IN GENERAL, the student that is already at an ivy or tier 1 is having his/her academic needs met.</p>
<p>I NEVER DISCOURAGED THE POSTER FROM APPLYING. I WAS GIVING ADVICE ABOUT WHAT THE POSTER ASKED OF THE FORUM. again, i repeat, if you think that because we are in cyberspace you can become an insulting little twit whenever someone presents a different opinion, you are WRONG. by responding to a different opinion with such an ad hominem attack you are lowering the worth of all advice you have given or will give in the future, and embarrassing yourself.</p>