<p>Hey guys! I am a sophomore in NYIT's BS/DO program, and I am just really unhappy in that school and I want to transfer out. However, one good thing about it is that I have a safety net with this program: guaranteed admission into NYCOM if I get a 26 MCAT score..........but I just wanted to know if it is possible for me to transfer into another BS/MD or BS/DO program?</p>
<p>anyone? i would really appreciate any replys</p>
<p>I would highly doubt it. Most, if not all, BS/MD programs are only open to freshmen.</p>
<p>oo alright..yeah i had a feeling about that too..hmm..oh wellz guess ill just deal with it lol..it wont be too bad</p>
<p>Why are you doing a D.O. program from the start? You're shooting yourself in the foot for competitive specialties by not even giving yourself a chance to apply to M.D. schools and just do a combined D.O. program bc you're afraid to take the MCATs.</p>
<p>Yeah, it looks like you sacrificed the quality of your undergraduate and graduate education for a guarantee, and you still have to take the MCATs. I'd recommend looking into transferring into another school, not necessarily a BS/MD program.</p>
<p>There ARE colleges that have BS/MD programs you can only apply to at the end of your sophomore year. Some you have to attend. Don't know more than that.</p>
<p>Oh, I didn't realize that you still have to take the MCATs anyways with this program. So even worse.</p>
<p>Why so unhappy with NYIT?</p>
<p>You can transfer to another college, do pre-med & apply to med school from there. </p>
<p>Don't give up.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>I can see what you guys are getting at, and you are right. However, for this program you only a 26 MCAT score to get into NYCOM, whereas if you just did regular pre-med, you would need to get much higher (to get into med school). But yeah, I am not receiving such a great quality of education (it is all self-teaching)...and that is very vital. oreo45, I'll look into colleges like that, and post what I find</p>
<p>Transfer out. You're in a DO program. That is simply not worth it. As someone said, you're shooting yourself in the foot. Unless you really like osteopathy (which I don't know how someone your age could really care), you should leave. Don't waste your time. I was in a similar situation for a BS/MD program and I didn't leave and it made me very miserable and bitter.</p>
<p>Bodacious- DOs are excellent doctors & FYI do just the same things as MDs. And anyhow why would you say its not worth it if he chose it in the first place? Please don't diss DOs, please.</p>
<p>Neha- If you don't like the college THAT is another story. Keep your head up and do what you need to do to succeed and reach your goals.</p>
<p>Neha- Also go through the Am Assoc of Med Schools list of BS/MD programs & look at each school as some do offer application after 2nd year. The thing is most are for their own undergrads. Maybe you could call the med progs(undergrad part) & ask if its available to you or if they know of any places that would consider you.</p>
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Bodacious- DOs are excellent doctors & FYI do just the same things as MDs. And anyhow why would you say its not worth it if he chose it in the first place? Please don't diss DOs, please.
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First of all, I'm not saying DO's are not real doctors or good doctors, but one cannont deny there is a stigma that comes along with it (maybe not among patients, but definitely among colleagues). Also, as for not being worth it, I guarantee you, the OP chose the program for the guarantee, not because they care about osteopathy.</p>
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First of all, I'm not saying DO's are not real doctors or good doctors, but one cannont deny there is a stigma that comes along with it (maybe not among patients, but definitely among colleagues). Also, as for not being worth it, I guarantee you, the OP chose the program for the guarantee, not because they care about osteopathy.
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<p>Actually, the stigma is least among colleagues. Outside of old-school physicians, there's really not much stigma surrounding DO's. They work side by side with MD's in the same hospitals, have the same rights and responsibilities, and are reimbursed according to the same fee schedules. Hence, they're regarded as equals by most MD's.</p>
<p>There's not really a stigma among patients. It's just that you have to explain to them sometimes what a DO is. In some parts of the country, like the Midwest, where there are a lot of DO's, that's not even necessary. I personally have a DO as my primary care physician. I'm more concerned with the care she provides than the letters after her name. Most patients are not very concerned with where their doctors went to med school. They are more interested in how compassionate they are, their communication skills, etc. Those skills, rather than technical skills, have been proven to be an indicator of patient satisfaction (not to insinuate that DO's are somehow deficient in technical skills).</p>
<p>The stigma is greatest among premeds and HS students, especially the elitist ones who don't know *****.</p>
<p>No stigma in my community where many medical groups have both DOs & MDs.</p>
<p>Yeah, NorCal, trying asking residency program directors in competitive specialties regarding the admitting or even interviewing of D.O. students. The stigma is definitely there. Of course patients don't care, and they don't know the difference.</p>
<p>I know DOs that are in the competitive specialties. Its not easy for anyone, but everyone has a chance, even if you don't think so.</p>
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Yeah, NorCal, trying asking residency program directors in competitive specialties regarding the admitting or even interviewing of D.O. students. The stigma is definitely there. Of course patients don't care, and they don't know the difference.
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<p>DO's have their own match with every specialty available (from peds all the way to plastics and derm). So, of course, allopathic residency directors aren't going to do them any favors.</p>
<p>But, that's the kick: osteopathic students have two cracks at whatever specialty they want because they can participate in the osteopathic match (which is only open to DO students) AND the allopathic match (which is open to both MD and DO students) while MD students can only participate in the allopathic match. 1/2 of all DO students complete their residency at allopathic, not osteopathic, residencies. They have a 70% chance of matching into an allopathic residency. It's not quite as good as the 94% chance that US MD students have but it's way higher than the 50% chance IMG's have. And you also have to take account the fact they have their own match which takes place a little before the allopathic match.</p>
<p>So, to review:</p>
<p>Residency directors at AOA-approved residencies will only take DO students.
Residency directors at ACGME-approved residencies will take both DO and MD students.</p>
<p>And the full range of specialities, including all the competitive ones, come in both flavors.</p>
<p>If you look at the trends in the residency match over the last few years, you will see that DO students are making up a larger and larger proportion of residents at allopathic programs. This has to do with the fact that the number of DO schools is increasing at a larger rate than the number of DO med schools. As this trend continues to meet our physician needs, any stigma against DO's will only be further reduced.</p>
<p>BodaciousG, I have to agree with oreo. A DO is just the same as an MD, in terms of education. They do the same exact things. I do agree that the MCATs scores and general admission requirements are less than those of an MD program, but the difficulty of the actual education is about the same. I know because my mom is an MD and she says that DOs are very high ranking now in hospitals. True, there will always be prejudice mostly due to the fact that many people don't actually KNOW what a DO is, but it's not like it's not worth it. DOs actually are appreciated because of their knowing the OMT technique which benefits the patients and also requires extra training on the part of the DOs.</p>