<p>I am a freshman at NYU Stern right now and was looking to transfer because I figured out that I was not following my passion of majoring in history or politics, so I wanted to try and transfer out of NYU's business school and serve in the military for a few years after college. However, I still want to land a job in business so I wanted to go to one of the better schools in the nation whose liberal arts program was also recruited for business. My first semester did not go so well and I got an A, A-, A-, and a B+ which landed me with a 3.675 GPA. I know that my next few semesters will be better and wanted to know what I should do.</p>
<p>1) Which schools should I be looking at, preferably ranked higher than NYU.</p>
<p>2) Since my first semester went poorly should I consider holding off my transfer apps to some of the more elite schools for junior year admission?</p>
<p>I think you need to reevaluate the situation. I doubt most people would consider A, A-, A-, B+ (3.675) a failure. Why don't you explore ROTC at NYU, if they have it. Plus Stern is ranked so high, you don't have much of a chance to transfer to a higher ranked business school.</p>
<p>Rankings are always subjective, but here's what US news says</p>
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<li> University of Pennsylvania (Wharton) 4.8 </li>
<li> Massachusetts Inst. of Technology (Sloan) 4.6 </li>
<li> University of California–Berkeley (Haas) * 4.5
University of Michigan–Ann Arbor * 4.5 </li>
<li> New York University (Stern) 4.3
U. of North Carolina–Chapel Hill (Kenan-Flagler) * 4.3
University of Texas–Austin (McCombs) * 4.3 </li>
<li> Carnegie Mellon University (PA) 4.2 </li>
<li> Univ. of Southern California (Marshall) 4.1
University of Virginia (McIntire) * 4.1 </li>
<li> Cornell University (NY) 4.0
Indiana University–Bloomington (Kelley) * 4.0 </li>
<li> Emory University (Goizueta) (GA) 3</li>
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<p>NYU is a great university. It's reputation has risen a lot over the past 20 years, and I believe that it will rise even more over the next 20. That isn't to say that you might not find more resources, richer course offerings, and a more prestigious brand at Harvard or Penn (or a very, very few other similar places), but you know that list already, and it's not so easy to transfer into them. Plus, only Penn has an undergraduate business program (if you want to keep studying business). And you can't beat New York for internship-type opportunities.</p>
<p>I'm sure NYU has fabulous offerings in history and politics. Have you tried to explore any of those?</p>
<p>well the problem is, I cannot be in Stern and do a major or a minor in the liberal arts program at NYU because it would eat away at my few free credits that I have, so basically I have to transfer schools to pursue a liberal arts major. I guess I was a little confusing with my description, but I want to get out of business schools all together and transfer to a liberal arts college. the problem is I cant transfer to the one within NYU because it usually does not get recruited for business due to the financial institutions usually go to Stern to do their recruiting. So I was wondering what liberal art schools I should try and apply to but still have a shot at getting recruited to business in the end.</p>
<p>haha, in some twisted way thats exactly what i wanted. I just want to follow what I always wanted to study but end up in the career I want to do for the rest of my life. I came to the realization this year after meeting with alumni that it doesn't matter what you really major in as long as you have a decent gpa and are from a good school. Since this is true, I would rather be more well rounded than just be focused on one thing during college.</p>
<p>Why don't you just study what you're interested in on your own? I have two MD friends, one recently published a well received book on Islamic Jihad and the other is considered an authority on the Armenian Holocaust. Both didn't become interested in these subjects until after being in practice for several years. They didn't need to have a degree or major in these areas to achieve their expertise or follow their passion.</p>
<p>I have a close friend at NYU who is an econ/computer science major in CAS. After interning (paid! and a LOT of money I might add) during both the summers and the school year at two different investment banking firms, he already has a job lined up for after graduation with a very prestigious bank and is even going to travel abroad with them. He chose not to be in Stern because he wanted to study other things than business, and it didn't hurt him. It was his location in New York, his reliability, and his determination that got him his job, not his degree. So why don't you try transferring to CAS? Or else just stick it out in Stern? Unless there's something you don't like about NYU and NYC, it seems to me you've landed in a place that is perfect for the kind of opportunity you seek.</p>
<p>Thanks for all the help people, but I think after reading all this and just reading up on a few different colleges I think I am going to go talk to my Stern guidance counselor about switching colleges to CAS and possibly submit an application to Brown, even though its a longshot, because it has always been a school that has attracted me. Again, thanks for the help.</p>
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<p>Just to give you perspective, those would be considered by most people to be excellent grades for someone in Stern, particularly a freshman! This ain't high school anymore. You can't expect straight A's. You say you are interested in Brown (I have a kid at NYU and a kid at Brown) and let me tell you that if you go to Brown, don't expect straight A's. At schools like NYU/Stern and Brown, everyone is a very good student or they would not be accepted. Thus, in college, they can't all get straight A's. Your record so far is excellent at Stern.</p>
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well the problem is, I cannot be in Stern and do a major or a minor in the liberal arts program at NYU because it would eat away at my few free credits that I have, so basically I have to transfer schools to pursue a liberal arts major.
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<p>I don't fully get this. It is one thing to say you don't want to do a business degree and just want liberal arts and you could transfer into CAS. But the reason you gave, I don't quite understand. I have a kid in Tisch in a BFA program that is a huge chunk of her curriculum. However, even in Tisch, someone CAN minor or even double major in a liberal arts subject (not easy but it is done by many). I imagine the same is true at Stern. BUT you are saying you don't want to use up your electives to do a minor or double major....but you COULD....that way you study business (you want a career in business) and your passion....history or political science. While it is true you do not have to major in business to go into business, you really could combine at Stern a business degree with a second focus in a liberal arts subject. Not easy but it is done. My D's boyfriend in Tisch is getting a BFA in Drama and also has a double major in history. If a Tischie can do it, I imagine a Stern student can too. I suggest that route or transferring into CAS if you have a change of heart about a business degree. But considering you want to go into a business career, it seems like a good idea to stay in Stern and pursue history or political science as your liberal arts component to your degree. That can be done. You'd have your cake and eat it too.</p>