<p>I know it is harder to transfer from out of state than it is from a school located in California but if I am a California resident (and have been my whole life) would this increase my chances of transferring to say UCLA or UCB? If I remember correctly they take about 25% (?) of transfer students who are also California residents compared to only a small percentage of students who are not California residents (please correct me if my numbers are wrong).</p>
<p>So basically if I am transferring from an out of state school but I am a California resident are my chances better than if I was not a California resident? If so how much better are they compared to a non resident? How close are they to someone transferring from a CCC? (If everything else is equal).</p>
<p>In legalese, once you leave California for two weeks for non tourist reasons you lose residency even if you grew up here or have parents here. Once you enter another jurisdiction and enter into commerce with or pay any sort of taxes there, that is when residency commences. If you come back to California then you will have to wait a year and a day to regain California residency, and they will check and require proof on paper. If you want to gain entry in a UC as a transfer from another states school, then you should have some sort of AA degree with all your prereqs complete or will not be in a good position. If you have to attend a CCC to complete classes and transfer that way you will rack up to many units in not enough time and lock yourself out. You would have to pay up front if got accepted if that happens since they are getting much more strict.</p>
<p>I am currently at a state school outside of California but I am paying non resident tuition. If I am no longer a resident of California then what state am I a resident of?</p>
<p>What if my permanent residence is still in California? Does that make any difference? For example if I vote I would still vote for California’s government and not any other states.</p>
<p>If I do transfer from an out of state school to a UC will that mean I will have to pay out of state tuition at the UC even though my permanent residence is in California? That would be kind of weird.</p>
<p>Permanent residency is a federal classification not state. If you are doing commerce (paying a school) or paying taxes in another state, then that is the jurisdiction of your domicile. When you register to vote, that is based upon residence within a specific county district. Can’t have it both ways, sorry.</p>
<p>You are mistaken as to what residency is. You are a resident of any state in which you intend to remain, and are a resident as soon as you intend to remain there. In other words, if you move to California and intend to remain in California, you are a California resident immediately. It does not matter whether you have anything official saying so (though that can be evidence of residence). </p>
<p>The rules you are referencing concern HOW LONG you have to be a resident before you can qualify for resident tuition. It is not that you are not a resident for a year, it is that you have to be a resident, and remain a resident for a year.</p>
<p>In other words, yes you are still a California resident. Might as well go to California Community College to save money and have an easier transfer process.</p>
<p>Elements of Residence<br>
Residence can be established or changed only by the union of act (physical
presence) and intent. Physical presence alone is insufficient; intent alone is insufficient
Physical Presence
The act necessary to establish residence is physical presence in
California. A student (and/or the student’s parent(s)) must be
physically present in California for more than a full year. Residence
may not be established in absentia and it must be established (and the
prior residence relinquished) for at least 366 days. If it is the first year
of California residence, the 366 days must be immediately prior to the
residence determination date for the relevant term. Physical presence
in California solely for educational purposes within California does
not constitute the establishment of California residence, regardless
of the length of stay
Intent
necessary to establish residence is physical presence in
California. A student (and/or the student’s parent(s)) must be
physically present in California for more than a full year. Residence
may not be established in absentia and it must be established (and the
prior residence relinquished) for at least 366 days. If it is the first year
of California residence, the 366 days must be immediately prior to the
residence determination date for the relevant term. Physical presence
in California solely for educational purposes within California does
not constitute the establishment of California residence, regardless
of the length of stay.
Intent
Greatest weight will be given to legal ties established with the State of
California. To prove intent, it is necessary for the student and/or
parent(s) to obtain legal indicia of intent to make California one’s
permanent home and relinquish all legal ties to the past place of
residence as soon as possible after the date of entry into California.
An individual will not normally be considered to have fulfilled the
intent requirement while still holding legal indicia from out of state.</p>
<p>Some of the relevant indicia of intent to establish or maintain
California as one’s residence for purposes of tuition and fees are:
Legal Indicia of Intent
• Paying California state income tax on total income, including
income earned outside the state of California, since the date
residence was established in California;
• Maintaining a California ID or driver’s license;
• Maintaining a California vehicle registration;
• Registering to vote and voting in elections in California (when
possible);
• Registering for the Selective Service in California;
• Establishing eligibility for social benefits with agencies within
California</p>
<p>Conduct that might be inconsistent with a claim of California residence
includes:
• Returning to the former out-of-state residence during academic
breaks or residing out of state for an extended period;
• Attending an out-of-state school as a resident of the state in
which the school is located;
• Paying taxes in another state as a resident of that state or not
fulfilling tax obligations to the State of California;
• Maintaining an out-of-state driver’s license or identification
card.
• Voting in another state;
• Obtaining a loan or other financial assistance requiring
residence in another state</p>
<p>NOTE: If a student (or the parent(s) of a student)
relinquishes California residence after moving from the state,
it will take 366 days of physical presence coupled with one
year of demonstrated intent to reestablish residence in
California for tuition purpose</p>
<p>^^You have posted the requirements for an out-of-state student to qualify for an in-state California tuition.</p>
<p>OP is a California Resident. Just because he goes to an out-of-state college does not relinquish his permanent residency here in California nor does it even qualify him to become a resident of that state where his current school is located. Of course, unless, his entire family moved out of California then he is still a California Resident.</p>
<p>No, that document is for all cases. Permanent Residency is based on the country NOT state. I hope you aren’t planning on becoming a lawyer for a career path.</p>
<p>^^When I said out-of-state student I meant anyone who does not have permanent residency within that state–including immigrants; visas; and etc.</p>
<p>In conclusion, since OP is a California Resident he is qualified for an in-state California tuition for UC’s/CSU’s. That’s all I was trying to point out.</p>
<p>You still are confusing the jurisdiction of the US with each individual state. There is no such thing as “Permanent Residency” as a classification within a state. Permanent Residency in regards to immigration laws and visa’s are a federal level issue, NOT state. It really shouldn’t be that difficult to comprehend this.</p>
<p>If he is in a jurisdiction outside of California for longer than two weeks and conducts business besides specific exceptions of research or military deployment, then he is considered to have relinquished California Residency. I see it all the time with the UCs, CSU, and CCC’s trying to educate people on this matter since they do require PROOF.</p>
<p>^^He can show proof if his parents/family still live in California(Bills, Tax forms, and etc). I’m assuming OP is still ‘dependent’ on his parents and his parents can claim OP as dependent on their tax forms = California Resident. </p>
<p>My friend, who lived in California his whole live and dependent on his parents, went to NYU for 2-years before transferring back to California into UCLA with an In-State Tuition.</p>
<p>There’s a specific exemption from non-resident tuition for anyone who attended a California high school for at least three years and graduated or passed the CHSPE/GED.</p>
<p>You can go out-of-state indefinitely and come back and keep your California residency, as long as you were here for high school. I haven’t lived in California since 2007, but I could still go back and get in-state rates for graduate school if I wanted.</p>
<p>Dependent of a California Resident (Ed. Code §68076)
A student who has not been an adult physically present in California for more
than one year (366 days) and who is the dependent child (natural or adopted)
of a California resident who has been a resident for more than one year
(366 days) immediately prior to the residence determination date may be
entitled to resident classification until he has resided in California for the
minimum time necessary to establish a residence (366 days), as long as he
maintains continuous full-time attendance at a post-secondary institution.</p>
<p>Requirements:
On the residence determination date, the student:
a. must be the dependent child of a California resident
who has met the University’s requirements for
residence for tuition purposes for 366 days.<br>
(Dependence is typically proven by submitting
verification that the student is claimed as a dependent
for income tax purposes or the California parent is
providing court-ordered support), and
b. must not have lived in California for more than one
year since he arrived in the state or since he reached his 18th birthday.</p>
<p>True, AB540 will grant him in state tuition but he and his parents will still need to show proof.</p>
<p>Thank you for all the replies, they are very helpful.</p>
<p>One reason I did not go to a CCC was because I know people who have and none of them (at least as far as I know) have transferred (this is their third year). I know it is possible but with the budget cuts + tuition rates at state schools the community colleges where I live are all over crowded and you are not guaranteed your classes which makes it difficult to transfer in two years, and possibly even three increased. This may not be the same everywhere though.</p>
<p>I should have provided more information. I went to high school all four years in California (as well as all school before that) and I am still dependent on my parents.</p>
<p>So if I am still a California resident does that mean I have a better chance of admission into a UC than someone who is not a resident but is also transferring from out of state? Would I be part of that percentage of people who are admitted and also CA residents or are my chances as low as a non resident? Or somewhere in between? </p>
<p>Say highest chances are a CA resident who in transferring from a CCC and lowest are a non resident transferring from out of state.</p>
<p>Your chances of transferring in as a student not from a California community college are very low. Out of 5,500 accepted students at UCLA and 4,300 at Berkeley, 90 percent came from a CCC.</p>
<p>The UC system is statutorily mandated to give highest priority to California community college students.</p>
<p>Even though I am (possibly) a CA resident and graduated from high school in California? Or does this have no effect at all and they put all CCC students in one section and all out of state students in another?</p>
<p>Yes, you will be oos. Get an aa or return and do at least 24 units in a ccc. Cccs are nortorious for not accepting many oos credits realize though.</p>
<p>Thank you, I understand now. That isn’t what I was hoping to hear.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t really want to transfer to a CCC, I would think that wouldn’t look good? And plus it would be difficult to transfer in two years if I did that. </p>
<p>I heard transfer application rates have gone down? Is this expected to happen again next year?</p>
<p>In order to transfer taking a foreign language is required? I know that was true in high school, but I only took one year (instead of two). That is what I am reading for UCB at least.</p>
<p>Seems to be a requirement for Haas…</p>
<p>So even if I would otherwise be accepted I could be automatically denied because I never took a foreign language? Besides 1 year of French in high school.</p>
<p>Why wouldn’t it “look good” for you to attend a CCC? As I explained, your application is far more likely to be accepted if you transfer from a CCC, because such students are given the highest priority among transfer applicants and get by far the most transfer slots.</p>
<p>90 percent of accepted transfer students at the two universities you’re interested in, are California community college transfers.</p>