<p>If I could pull a 3.7< in this course load, do I have a great shot? Planning to do pre-law/political science</p>
<p>Freshman Year (13, 16)
3-History of the U.S. to 1865
3-American Government and Politics*
1-American Government and Politics: Discussion*
3-Political Thinking*
3-Fundamentals of Public Speaking, Honors</p>
<p>4-History of the U.S. since 1865, Honors
3-The Presidency and American Institutions, Honors*
3-International Politics*
3-The Study of Evil
3-American Literature, Honors</p>
<p>Sophomore Year (14, 17)
3-Macroeconomics
3-Argumentation and Debate
4-Introduction to Ethics, Honors
4-Elementary Statistics, Honors</p>
<p>3-Introduction to the Administration of Justice
3-Constitutional Law
3-Law and Society, Honors*
3-Concepts of Criminal Law
5-Animal Biology</p>
<p>Cal and ucla give their average gpa for xfer admits online; you can look it up. For ucla I think a 3.7 right at the average, which means a decent chance but probably by no means a lock.</p>
<p>Also you don’t say where you are taking these classes. the UC schools give priority to CCC xfers</p>
<p>Seems doable I attended community college and transferred to CSULB with 82 units - seems a bit insane but I had completed all G.E. requirements, lower-division requirements for two majors, and took a few extra classes to get my AA Degree. </p>
<p>Transferred with a 3.651 GPA only because I had a few professors who were insanely hard biology and astronomy. We started with something like 80 students about 65% dropped. Of those remaining 20% ended up with C’s the rest had D’s and F’s - so my advice skip on the crazy Russian astronomy professors and take biology as C/NC (pass/no-pass) if possible. :)</p>
<p>My unit breakdown was as follows
Freshman Year (18, 16)
Sophmore Year (21, 18)
Then one summer I took 9 units (that was a fun experience). </p>
<p>That’s insane! 21 units?? Is it wise to start with 13? Just to get the hang of it?</p>
<p>I should probably note that I’d already have taken AP US Government, APUSH, AP English Lit, AP Macroeconomics, AP Statistics, and AP Biology, so those equivalent courses should be easy As. Would Berkeley see/care if I’m repeating these classes in their respective college versions?</p>
<p>Just curious, why are you taking law and poli sci? Why not just poli sci? That would ease it up a bit and give you a chance of completing all 4 major prereqs, instead of just the 3 you have here. The extra law classes seem like overkill to me, unless you have a specific reason you want the law major? If it’s because you plan for law school, definitely don’t take pre-law, any L1 or above will tell you it’s a waste of time. In fact, most law UG majors score the lowest on LSATS over any other major. Look it up, unbelievable, but true. </p>
<p>You would have a good shot, but not a lock. UCLA’s average GPA of admitted transfers for polisci is 3.75 ish. Just make sure you complete the IGETC and look up professors on ratemyprofessor lol</p>
<p>By the looks of those honor classes, it seems you will be TAP certified for UCLA? If so, you’ll have a good chance to be admitted there so long as you keep up a strong GPA because Political Science is a highly impacted major. I would suggest at least higher than the average 3.7ish that they have for admitted transfers. </p>
<p>As for Berkeley, it’s rather unpredictable. A lot of highly qualified applicants are always rejected so it’s hard to say. Other than having a high GPA, write good personal statements and have decent extracurriculars (employment counts, too). </p>
<p>Also, will you be IGETC certified? If you’re applying to the College of L&S at Berkeley, then you’ll need to complete IGETC. </p>
<p>If you choose San Diego State, it’ll definitely be tougher to transfer than if you were to go to SBCC. There are some benefits to going to a university for your first 2 years, though. For instance, SDSU is a pretty good place to fall back on, imo. Like, if you were to get rejected from your UC of choice, it’s not like you’d be left in a bad institution or anything like that. I’m personally transferring to UCLA from SDSU (and plenty of others on this forum have gotten accepted to top UC’s from CSU’s) so it’s not impossible. Berkeley rejected me, but I think it’s because I was missing quite a few pre-reqs… definitely try to focus on fulfilling pre-reqs for your first choice UC.</p>
<p>Idk, I can’t speak for CCC kids, but I think going to a 4-year university miiiight have a slight edge in prepping you for a UC. You’ll also get to experience that school pride I feel you wouldn’t find at a CCC – I know I’ll be an Aztec for life; albeit an Aztec with a bit of blue and gold in my blood. </p>
<p>@fullload, whaaat?! That’s insane. I can’t even… what? Yeah, I’m planning on law school afterwards, but not a law major. I just feel as if those courses would come in handy. Would you say that easy classes should be taken before “useful” classes? To make my life easier, per say? Would you suggest I ditch Introduction to the Administration of Justice and Law and Society, honors? And instead, replace them with courses that I’d love taking? Like Business Ethics, Introduction to Logic, or other Philosophy courses?</p>
<p>@ocnative, yeah, I’ll have all my breadth requirements completed, if that’s what you’re asking. I have a ton of AP credits (~10), so It’ll be all good there.</p>
<p>@sdsucsd, normally, I’d seriously consider going to a 4 year (especially SDSU), but I have four younger siblings and I’m planning on grad school, so there’s no way I could afford it :/.</p>
<p>By the way, can I hide some of my AP scores when applying? Last thing I’d want is for schools to know that I got a 5 on the AP United States History exam, AP United States Government exam, and hopefully, a 5 on the AP English Literature, Macroeconomics, and Statistics exam.</p>
<p>I’m planning for my course load to be relativity easy, considering that I’d be “retaking” most of my courses.</p>
<p>@solostish
When you say you have “a ton of AP credits (~10),” do you mean 10 exams? How many total units? From the 6 exams you listed, I count 24 UC-applicable semester units (36 quarter units). You know those credits count toward your required 60 UC-transferable semester units, right?</p>
<p>Generally, you won’t be granted duplicate credit for both an AP exam and a comparable college course, so there’s really no point in repeating those courses you already have credit for. Eliminating them would lighten your load quite a bit (even if they would have been easy, they’d still take up time you could devote elsewhere). Or you could even try to squeeze together your other classes and go for a 1-year transfer (I believe there are several posters here who have successfully done this).</p>
<p>Also, when you say, “I’ll have all my breadth requirements completed,” are you referring to IGETC or to UCB’s L&S breadth? For IGETC, with your listed classes and APs, it looks like you’re still missing one Arts course and one Physical Science course, but perhaps you’ve satisfied these with other AP scores. (Also the foreign language requirement, but you probably satisfied this in high school.)</p>
<p>If you’re completing UCB’s L&S GE requirements instead of IGETC, the Seven-Course Breadth portion must be met with college courses, not exams. (Perhaps this is why you want to repeat those classes?) Still, even with your proposed schedule, you’d be missing a Physical Science course.</p>
<p>Solo, yes, ditch the law classes. I know it sounds crazy, but I promise you, pre-law at CCC and at the UC are completely worthless to you when you enter law school. It sounds counter intuitive, but ask any L1-L3 or any attorney. Trust me, you’ll get ALL the law you need in law school and having those courses will not give you an edge. More importantly, there are classes you can take now that will help you with your LSAT, and that’s all that matters, your LSAT and GPA. </p>
<p>So yes, logic, writing, STEM, critical thinking, and any courses that will help you with the 4 sections of the LSAT. This will also give you the ability to get all poli sci major prereqs completed as well so you have an edge when applying for that major.</p>
<p>@keelnailed , I took AP Chemistry (3), and AP Physics and AP Art History this year, I just don’t have my score back. You’re saying that these courses won’t complete my breadth requirements? Also, if I transfer in one year (which I think I can do if AP credits are taken), would it be harder? I mean, Berkeley wouldn’t see any official grades, which should be a disadvantage, right? I don’t know how it works, though.</p>
<p>@fullload , should I put a Physics course where my law courses are? Would that be better?</p>
<p>That’s all up to you, just make sure you’re completing all igetc and major prereqs first, then you can consider what additional UC transferable classes you can take to fulfill your 60 units.</p>
<p>@fullload, What’s the difference between Breadth and IGETC? I found somewhere that Breadth is only for Cal-States? Which one do I need to complete to transfer to a UC?</p>
<p>Also, when mentioned that I could potentially cram and transfer in one year, how would I do this if APs don’t give me Breadth credit??</p>
<p>I’m not familiar with Breadth, you’ll want to choose from whatever options the UC offers you. I have chosen IGETC, which is great for me and usually the standard for most UC’s and transfer students. I’m not applying to CSU’s so not sure what they use.</p>
Also, if I transfer in one year (which I think I can do if AP credits are taken), would it be harder? I mean, Berkeley wouldn’t see any official grades, which should be a disadvantage, right? I don’t know how it works, though.</p>