<p>Oh btw to be rejected by almost all ivies and accepted to one is nothing usual. Other posters shouldnt jump in and say " If he didnt make it into mit columbia brown etc etc, how did he manage to get into Penn! Therefore he must be a ■■■■■." right.</p>
<p>Define, you’re right. I’ve heard of multiple ivy-to-ivy transfers. I recently talked to a guy at columbia who finished his sophomore year and will be transferring to yale this fall. Also, remember that asian kid who sued Princeton for discrimination a few years back? He ended up going to Yale and then transferred to Harvard! Go figure. </p>
<p>No school is right for everyone. And Penn is not a good fit for me; I’ve made a few good friends here, but overall I’m not too happy here. I’m pretty confident that I would be exponentially happier at a place like harvard/yale.</p>
<p>I guess you never know until you are there (harvard/yale)…if I were you I would stray away from saying that Yale/columbia/MIt/etc will place me in better grad programs because I think those said schools would probably consider themselves peer schools and would be skeptical that you just aren’t using your Penn resources enough. If it is a social issue at Penn, then focus on it in an emotional light and you might influence the admissions for ivy to ivy transfer…however, don’t come off as “my privileged ivy brethren don’t treat me as well as your privileged ivy students will.” </p>
<p>In the end best of luck to you</p>
<p>Am I mistaken or don’t the ivy and ivy-like schools consistently accept each others kids at the graduate level? I know that 1/3 of graduate Whartonites come from ivy schools. and another 1/3 from the next top schools (standford, MIT, etc.). I have done the research on all the top graduate programs and penn students consistently get into them. All the ivys consider each other academically on par and would not look down on penn students.</p>
<p>I really want to go to penn cuz it’s a great school and I hope one day you will realize that.</p>
<p>If the OP is legit- here are some thoughts. First of all, you would have been better off trying to transfer for soph year. I would say your chances at another Ivy are not great for junior year, but you do have a chance. You might look at UChicago.</p>
<p>My son was not happy at Penn freshman year for some of the same reasons you listed, plus he was injured and not able to participate in the sport for which he was recruited. He did transfer apps and was accepted to a few places, including Chicago (also accepted prior). However, he decided to stay at Penn and change the things he didn’t like. He moved off campus, took more interesting classes (upper level) and had a much better experience. He graduated in 2010 (English with econ minor) and wound up loving Penn. He did put off some crummy requirement courses until senior year, which wasn’t much fun, but he sure loved his classes soph and junior year! He also had a really good off-campus job which was a huge boost in his getting the job he got after graduation. And- he did NOT aspire to Wall Street.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
<p>45 percenter is one of my favorite posters on CC. Thanks a lot! For the true, great advice and the laughs.</p>
<p>This thread has some information on transfer admit rates for various schools, some from this year and some from last year…</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/transfer-students/1362873-transfer-acceptance-rates-top-25-schools-2011-collegeboard.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/transfer-students/1362873-transfer-acceptance-rates-top-25-schools-2011-collegeboard.html</a></p>
<p>PennDude is clearly a huge ■■■■■ as his posts are almost solely focused on bashing Penn and putting it down. Please be more mature and stop talking trash about Penn. Even if you got rejected this is not the right way to act. Penn is a peer institution of any other ivy league</p>
<p>Also, PennDude can easily confirm his identity by writing his username on a card and taking a picture of his hand holding it on Locust or inside Huntsman or in Van Pelt (anywhere a legitimate Penn student would have access to)…the possibilities are endless! </p>
<p>All the econ profs and PhD. students I’ve talked to were always very proud about Penn’s Economics department…I think it would be counter-intuitive for them to undermine themselves like that. </p>
<p>I love how 45Percenter is the Penn-■■■■■ police here…like the Penn-■■■■■ patrol! haha I made a pun</p>
<p>I don’t understand why people are so defensive. I graduated from Penn and a lot of people have issues with the culture here. It’s not so surprising that someone would want to transfer. There’s even a category in senior superlatives for most-missed transfer…</p>
<p><a href=“http://34st.com/2012/12/senior-superlatives-2013[/url]”>http://34st.com/2012/12/senior-superlatives-2013</a></p>
<p>Not sure about Ivy-to-Ivy transfers, but from what I can recall Brown seems like a popular destination, which probably isn’t the best fit for someone wanting to do a PhD in Econ.</p>
<p>^ i dont think ppl doubted the OP’s cultural concerns but more so his academic ones. They just seemed inconsistent and possibly “trollish.” As you said yourself, econ at brown is not the most conventional route.</p>
<p>^ As someone who is finishing up in Econ @ Brown, I respectfully disagree. While the educational philosophy at Brown may be different from Brown, the Econ department definitely has some shining stars, and those who actually know what it takes to get into Econ Ph.D programs (mostly re: coursework), get into great programs. I have friends going to Berkeley, MIT, and Harvard for grad school. I’m not sure exactly what the rankings are for grad school (not my narrative), but I’m assuming those aren’t awful schools. I also have friends at Penn attending similar grad schools, so I’m sure both schools can provide a valuable education at a high enough caliber to keep you intellectually stimulated.</p>
<p>And yeah, a lot of people transfer here. You should sift through the subgroups of these schools and reach out to users that have transferred.</p>
<p>PennDude</p>
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<li>I don’t even believe that you go to Penn. In fact, I think everything your saying is bs. </li>
<li>Don’t degrade Penn by saying that it doesn’t place it’s graduates into top Econ programs. Penn has one of the best undergraduate Econ programs and graduate Econ programs. </li>
<li>Stop being a hater. </li>
<li>If you are real, the only reason why I think you want to transfer is for prestige.</li>
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