<p>Why you so low??? ..... :(</p>
<p>any input/opinions would be appreciated :/</p>
<p>no? nothing?</p>
<p>Tufts is the Rodney Dangerfield of top-tier schools. This topic has been hashed over here:</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/tufts-university/390170-tufts-reputation.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/tufts-university/390170-tufts-reputation.html</a></p>
<p>I guess I just want SOMEONE to agree with me that Tufts is just as prestigious and “good” a school as Duke and Notre Dame. I just can’t wrap my head around why we are ranked so low. I know it has to do with the fact that we don’t have a lot of money and are a relatively small school but GIVE IT UP USNEWS! I always thought that Tufts was just as good as Cornell and the like - why does it not get its due?</p>
<p>“I guess I just want SOMEONE to agree with me that Tufts is just as prestigious and “good” a school as Duke and Notre Dame.”</p>
<p>I’ll agree with you transferoutspls that Tufts is just as good as Duke and ND as long as you agree to the obvious fact that Michigan is better than Tufts. :-)</p>
<p>Are you a ■■■■■? Tufts is nowhere as prestigious as Duke, Cornell, or Notre Dame. -.-</p>
<p>If you’re upset with Tufts low ranking and actually think Tufts is a peer with those universities, then you should have tried applying to and attending one of those universities, instead.</p>
<p>I’d prefer it if you didn’t insult my intelligence, I got into Bowdoin and plenty of other good schools. Nobody says Cornell is a better school than Bowdoin and honestly I don’t think it’s that much different from Tufts.</p>
<p>If you look at Student Faculty ratio, the average SAT and ACT for students, the number of students accepted, and the percent in the top 10% of their class, Tufts is on par with ivies and top schools:</p>
<p>*source is 50topcolleges.com…Note that this is data from the most recent US news (so it measures the Fall class of 2009).
Tufts: </p>
<p>Mid 50% SAT range: 2040-2260 (or 1360-1500 with M and CR)
Mid 50% ACT range: 30-33
Top Decile: 85%</p>
<p>Retention Rate: 96%
Classes under 20: 71%</p>
<h1>Accepted: 3,756</h1>
<p>Student-Faculty Ratio: 9:1</p>
<p>Cornell:</p>
<p>Mid 50% SAT range: 1250-1500
Mid 50% ACT range: 29-33
Top Decile: 86%</p>
<p>Retention Rate: 96%
Classes Under 20: 56%</p>
<h1>Accepted: 6,678</h1>
<p>Student-Faculty Ratio: 11:1</p>
<p>So in this perspective, it appears Cornell has 1% higher in their students that are in the top decile of their class. Everything else Tufts is “better.” But better should be use lightly. What’s more appropriate is that they are very close (like their retention rates are the same, etc.). I use number of accepted students because that shows a better measure of how many spots/seats are available. So Tufts is definitely a great school. Don’t let rankings make you think otherwise as Tufts is stellar. Indeed, the Times Rankings of World University put Tufts 53rd in the world–ahead of Brown, Dartmouth, and Notre Dame. So rankings are arbitrary and silly.</p>
<p>As a comparison for Notre Dame:</p>
<p>Mid 50% SAT range: 1960-2230
Mid 50% ACT range: 31-34
Top Decile: 86%</p>
<p>Retention Rate: 98%
Classes Under 20: 54%</p>
<h1>Accepted: 4,160</h1>
<p>Student-Faculty Ratio: 12:1</p>
<p>Tufts has more classes under 20 than Notre Dame, accepts fewer students, has a better student faculty ratio, and a better SAT range (on both the low and high end).
Notre Dame has a better retention rate (by 2%), better ACT, and better percent in the top decile (by 1%).</p>
<p>The poster above doesn’t know what they are talking about. Tufts is a great school. DOn’t let rankings let you think otherwise.</p>
<p>It’s silly. USNWR has Michigan lower than Tufts. But I know rjkofnovi would defend Michigan to the death. That’s fine. Both are different schools. And both are great schools. Yet to somehow say one is better or far superior is simply ignorant given the close proximity in objective features at top institutions.</p>
<p>No, USNWR has it right in this case. Cornell, Duke and ND are more prestigious than Tufts, but Tufts is better regarded than Michigan though. Fittingly enough, these two schools seem to have the most insecure posters representing them on this site from what I’ve seen.</p>
<p>If you aren’t satisfied with Tufts’ ranking, then transfer out please, transferoutpls.</p>
<p>“No, USNWR has it right in this case. Cornell, Duke and ND are more prestigious than Tufts, but Tufts is better regarded than Michigan though.”</p>
<p>In your opinion. In my opinion it isn’t.</p>
<p>Seriously, international relations is the only field Tufts is stronger than Michigan. Tufts just doesn’t cut it when compared to Michigan.</p>
<p>“Fittingly enough, these two schools seem to have the most insecure posters representing them on this site from what I’ve seen.” </p>
<p>vengasso, how much have you seen with a join date of May 2011?</p>
<p>"“Fittingly enough, these two schools seem to have the most insecure posters representing them on this site from what I’ve seen.” </p>
<p>You mean because a poster like yourself feel it’s ok to disparage one of the finest institutions of learning on the entire planet? Your quote:</p>
<p>"Also, Alexandre clearly has a Blue and Maize agenda. No one considers Michigan a top 15 elite at the undergraduate level. A Michigan JD or MD? Incredibly well regarded! A Michigan BA or BS? A dime a dozen to be honest… "</p>
<p>To be honest, I wouldn’t give you two cents for your analysis of “insecure posters.” When you make absolutely ridiculous claims like the one above, you lose ALL credibility. It is not a sign of insecurity to comment on a ridiculous opinion. It is however, complete arrogance to make a comment such as the one above.</p>
<p>Goldman Sachs recruits at Tufts in Investment Banking for their New York office; so does DE Shaw and JP Morgan; Google and Microsoft also recruit as well as many other top firms.</p>
<p>I don’t care what posters say about prestige when some of the top firms in the world obviously think otherwise. And trust me, most kids would rather have a good job after graduation then care about what some random person on a message board thinks.</p>
<p>I am sure top firms also recruit at Michigan as well (no, I know they do). To disparage these schools as not prestigious is either sad or really sad.</p>
<p>Top firms recruit at a lot of places. I don’t see how any of us are disparaging Michigan or Tufts when we say they are not top 15 American universities. There’s a lot of fantastic schools in the US so there’s a lot of competition in that regard.</p>
<p>"I guess I just want SOMEONE to agree with me that Tufts is just as prestigious and “good” a school as Duke and Notre Dame. "</p>
<p>I’ll be that someone. Tufts, Duke, Cornell, ND, Michigan, and Georgetown are all in the same general level. People from all over the world want to study and teach at these places. Nobody going to any of these needs to worry about feeling inferior to even HYPM folks.</p>
<p>Tufts is also very close to Cambridge and Boston, whereas the other schools are adjacent to places nowhere near as interesting.</p>
<p>In terms of “good” or “as good,” I know Tufts is up there and that their grads do very well. But if we are talking about prestige, it simply is not on par with schools like Duke and Cornell. Tufts is not a popular school to apply to and has little national reputation. Of course, the people that matter(employers) will know it’s a great school. But again, you are not going to get the wow factor associated with a school like Duke, or even schools lower ranked than it like BU, simply because it is just not a widely recognized school.</p>
<p>Yes, because clearly Goldman Sachs and the like recruit at every top school for investment banking. You know that some wall street firms have princeton as a non-target? As in, that’s not where they recruit. That’s crazy! Yes, top firms recruit at a lot of schools but the distinction is a. if they actually recruit b. what they recruit for and c. for what office. The google cambridge office is different from the New York office.</p>
<p>Maybe in the west coast Tufts doesn’t get the wow factor, but I have also seen this of Duke and other schools. East coast, NYC, New England, it definitely exists. The common phrase I have seen is “wow you go to Tufts?” Yet I have also heard people say in the west coast (who, by the way, were pretty uneducated) Tufts? What’s that? Then again, i have heard people say what’s columbia? I guess that speaks more to the average person. Surprisingly, you will find a lot of people who have never heard of caltech on the east coast (i feel the big bang theory has changed that slightly).</p>