<p>I have been accepted to both schools. I know each school's stats and programs, but how are they? In other words how does each school differ from one another? How do their students interact with each other? Will I still be able to keep any friends that I made from the other school if I decide to go to the other one?</p>
<p>I toured both, and I found the students at Tulane to be far more welcoming than those at Loyola, but that could just be me. Also, Loyola’s religiously affiliated, of course, so there was a Catholic vibe. I’m graduating high school this year, but I have several friends a year ahead of me at each school, and I know they still remain friends. They often study in one another’s dorms and eat lunch together and such. From what I’ve seen and heard, the two schools do a good job of interacting, though I think that Tulane students sort of look down on Loyola students because the school is more artsy. The students at each school can eat at the other school’s cafeterias and other dining options, and if a Tulane student wants to take a class that Loyola offers, he/she can, and vise versa. Also, Tulane has a greater percentage of students from out of state.</p>
<p>Overall, I think the choice between the school comes down to what you want to major in, though, because both schools have their weak and strong points.</p>
<p>butaneVeins says it well, I would only emphasize that Tulane has a MUCH greater percentage of students from OOS.</p>
<p>Here is an old link to a similar question: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/tulane-university/671948-tulane-vs-loyola-new-orleans.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/tulane-university/671948-tulane-vs-loyola-new-orleans.html</a> I think the big thing here is that Tulane is so much more known nationally, not to mention that there are numerous “Loyolas” out there. There is nothing wrong with Loyola, Tulane is just much broader in its offerings and many other aspects. Loyola has some great aspects for certain students, though, such as a fine music program and also of course religious studies.</p>
<p>There is a fair amount of overlap between schools, but I will agree that MANY Tulane students look down on (I would even go as far as make fun of) Loyola.</p>
<p>Well, I didn’t address that part of the statement, and I am sure that happens. I would consider that unfortunate, though. I have known several Loyola grads that have had enormous success in their careers, both financially and on a personal level.</p>
<p>Tulane is certainly the more selective school, but then Harvard and many others are more selective than Tulane. I guess Tulane students are fine if they are (and undoubtedly are by a similar percentage of immature people) looked down on by students that attend the Ivies, Stanford, etc.? I certainly hope, and do believe in fact, that most students at all these schools are more mature than that, and it is only a minority that would believe that attending Tulane makes them superior to Loyola students.</p>
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<p>As far as having friends on both campuses, it’s almost too easy to keep them. I, personally, will go over to Loyola about three times a week and spend time with some of the guys I went to HS with. You could go literally every day.</p>
<p>And there really isn’t too much similarities between both schools, to be honest. Differences include size, depth of departments, and, as a result, academic experiences. I have a few friends who were somewhat disappointed with their academic experience at Loyola. They feel as if their academics are more akin to one of Louisiana’s better state schools, rather than the expensive private college Loyola is. I think the main issue is money; Loyola doesn’t have enough money to offer the same experience Tulane does. Moreover, the size of the two schools are entirely different. Some people thrive only in a small environment, and you should figure out if it matters at all to you. </p>
<p>Do some Tulane students look down on Loyola students? Yeah, kind of. Idk. It’s hard to explain. Furthermore, Loyola students try to degrade us, too. I can’t tell you how many times people have called my classmates “pompous” or “pretentious” on Loyola’s campus. It is what it is. We’re both very prideful, and I’ll leave it at that. </p>
<p>Also lol Loyola offers some music-majors that Tulane doesn’t but for the most part everything Loyola offers, Tulane does, too. And then some. And I’d say we’re pretty darn good when it comes to the Liberal artsy stuff, even though Loyola would have you believe otherwise. </p>
<p>All in all, I think the differences between these two fine schools are so pronounced that it should be relatively easy for you to figure out where you want to go. You’ll find the place you like more–and odds are, you’ll REALLY like it more–and choose there.</p>
<p>I am a Loyola grad from oos then and now, and my daughter his now in the process of applying to schools. We visited both schools, and my d was accepted to Loyola and is still awaiting a decision from Tulane (deferred). I will try and be objective about this and share my experience and my d’s view.</p>
<p>My d went to NO with both schools high on her list. She loves New Orleans, and both schools were high on her list. After her initial visit, she loved Tulane and was disappointed with Loyola. It was summer, and there really was nothing to see as far as activity, but Tulane had a professional presentation and tour, and Loyola’s was less formal and was sloppy. My d liked the size of Tulane and felt that the campus was beautiful. In short, she loved Tulane and wrote Loyola off. We agreed that before loving one too much or writing on off, a visit while classes were in session would be needed.</p>
<p>The second visit yielded somewhat different results. Loyola came off much better while the school was fully functioning. It still was too small for her personal preferrence. After visiting a fully functioning Tulane and a friend who attends, Tulane went down on her list. She was only there for a few hours…and she is a teenager…but her feel was that many students at Tulane presented themselves as stereotypical stuck up spoiled rich kids. And one thing she loves about New Orleans is its people, and Tulane had more of an east coast feel.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, what other people wrote about the students’ views of each other applied when I went there as well. Many Loyola students viewed Tulane as a great school, but felt many students there were wealthy, conceited, Ivy league rejects. horsinaround13said it best “There is a fair amount of overlap between schools, but I will agree that MANY Tulane students look down on (I would even go as far as make fun of) Loyola.” And that type of conceit was recognized by Loyola students. When I attended, there were a good amout of Tulane students who fit the stereotype of rich snobs…driving Daddy’s BMW, wearing preppy clothes, with little respect for anything not Tulane.</p>
<p>That said, obviously not every…or even most…Tulane students fit the stereotype. My d’s friend goes there and she is a kind person. I used to often study at Tulane’s library (Loyola’s library was horrible then, but now is quite nice), and I loved the intellectual atmosphere. I met some nice people from Tulane and never experienced a personal problem with any Tulane student. But I will say Tulane does present a feel of snobbery. </p>
<p>I’ll continue this on another post…</p>
<p>If you plan on staying in the New Orleans area, I think locally both schools are well-regarded and the difference in a degree from either school is slight at most. Nationally, a Tulane degree is more valuable. Tulane has a more impressive academic atmosphere in general. Perception is everything in the real world. Just as a Harvard degree has more value in the job market than a Tulane degree, a Tulane degree has more value than a Loyola degree. If I were to recommend to my d which school to attend if she did not plan on remaining in New Orleans…as a Loyola grad…, I would say Tulane.</p>
<p>I’m sure as this is a Tulane thread I will get challenged on my view that Tulane students often come off as spoiled, conceited, rich kids. I will say this…Tulane is perfect in so many ways. It is in a great area of a wonderful city. The campus is beautiful, and the academics are top notch. It is a great school, and I would be proud and happy if my d is admitted and elects to attend Tulane. But Tulane’s reputation for attracting rich, stuck up people from the east coast does have merit. Tulane to some extent does emit that feel. The campus has little diversity in race or even culture. In my eyes, that is the only drawback of Tulane.</p>
<p>There are areas in which Loyola does well. I loved the jesuit education. I went to a public school and was worried about the religion aspect. But religion is not forced on you at all, and the religion/philosophy course requirements really gave me knowledge and insight. Loyola has a nice mix of students, is pretty diverse, and the students are intelligent. I loved my classes and got a great education. In fact, I believe all colleges should require philosophy and religion courses. But Loyola is small, lacks the university atmosphere of Tulane, and has a significant number of local students (although it also has many out of state students).</p>
<p>Summary:
National academic reputation: Tulane
Local academic reputation: SLIGHT edge to Tulane, but a near wash
Beautiful campus: Tulane
Things to do on campus: Tulane
Diversity: Loyola
New Orleans feel: Loyola
East coast feel: Tulane
General academics: Tulane
Music, communications, philosphy/religion: Loyola
Value of degree: Tulane
Cost: Loyola
National value of degree relative to cost: Tulane
Local value of degree relative to cost: Loyola
Nice student body: Loyola</p>
<p>Overall, it is an individual choice. To me, generally, unless you are staying local, Tulane wins.</p>
<p>“Of Loyola’s first-year students, 58 percent are from out-of-state markets, with solid growth in Texas, Florida and California, in addition to gains in New England and the Northeast, and a big jump in students from the Boston-metro area. The first-year students come to Loyola University from 24 countries and 46 states and territories. Ethnic and minority enrollment has remained the same at 39 percent, and female students make up 57 percent of this year’s class. The ethnic percentages include Hispanic-American at 15 percent, African-Americans at 17 percent, and Asian-Americans at 3 percent.”</p>
<p>So Loyola is not totally local…more or less half from instate, but it has a local feel, as half is a large percentage.</p>
<p>Tulane has a northeast feel. 35% from the northeast, and 15% from Louisiana. Although Tulane has less locals, it is heavy northeast. Half of Tulane’s students are from Louisiana or the Northeast.</p>
<p>As a New Orleans native, I have to disagree that NOLA looks at both degrees equally.</p>
<p>And Tulane’s price tag does attract a certain kind of family–however, there are so many middle-class, lower-class students on scholarship at Tulane that it’s unfair to call us all spoiled little brats. Or to say we have no diversity of culture. (Loyola does have more diversity however, to be honest.) Besides, being wealthy doesn’t even make you a brat or a jerk. I’ve met many, many students who aren’t struggling financially, but are some of the nicer kids on campus. </p>
<p>I feel as if the “spoiled brat” label we get is largely unfounded–and before I started at Tulane, I would have agreed with you. Thankfully, I see that the stereotype I had was more or less wrong. I am no where near wealthy and I’ve never once felt like I couldn’t be friends with a fellow student because of it. That label we get is more or less from Loyola kids who haven’t even attempted to step foot on our campus.</p>
<p>What’s more, Loyola ain’t too cheap, either. It’s incredibly, incredibly expensive. And often times, with Tulane’s large scholarships, a Tulane degree and a Loyola degree would be of the same prices. My good friend actually is paying only 2k a year more to attend Tulane than he would, if he had chosen Loyola. </p>
<p>Loyola is a fine school. I can see that my friends there are certainly held to certain academic standards and expected to do well. It takes work to keep your scholarships, as I know a couple of guys who unfortunately lost theirs this past year. It’s small, it’s religious (but not too religious) and can give you things Tulane can’t. I think the differences between the schools are extremely prominent, nevertheless, and it’s easy for someone to choose between the two. Whenever I’m on Tulane’s campus, I know I’m at home. It feels different to travel to Loyola whenever I visit a friend, it’s just not Tulane. Likewise, they say the same thing. It’s just not Loyola.</p>
<p>To the OP: the only way to know where home is for you is to visit yourself. Researching can only give you so much of the picture.</p>
<p>I never said Tulane is ALL spoiled rich kids and has NO diversity of culture. There is a greater percentage of spoiled rich kids than Loyola. And the comment of your fellow Tulane student that he knows many people who look down on Loyola students shows the feeling that a sizeable number of Tulane students look down on Loyola is not an imagined paranoia. And if you read my post, that was the only real negative thing I had to say about Tulane. </p>
<p>But Tulane is not perfect, either. Also, as far as the national reputation, it is better than Loyola’s. But Tulane does cater somewhat to the locals…like guaranteed acceptance to Louisiana residents with a 3.5 gpa and a 28 ACT. Most elite, national private schools offer no such thing. And my comment about a general lack of diversity is correct. And for whatever reason, it does attract people from the northeast. I’m not saying that is bad, but my point was the feel there is a northeast feel and generally people with money. That does not mean all or even most people there are rich or are from the northeast, but that is the feel.</p>
<p>Again, I would have my daughter go to Tulane in a heartbeat. You have every reason to be proud of your school.</p>
<p>BTW, you even wrote, “Do some Tulane students look down on Loyola students? Yeah, kind of. Idk. It’s hard to explain.” I can tell you that Loyola students do not look down on Tulane students, but do notice that they are looked down upon by some Tulane students. And it really is not hard to explain…Tulane has higher average GPA/ACT for admitted students, and certain Tulane students feel they are academically superior. There are certain students at Tulane who think they are at Harvard and think of Loyola as a community college.</p>
<p>Although some of the points made in this thread may be true, I’d just like to point out that the only way for you to know for sure is to visit each school. As a Loyola student, I feel that it is safe to say that the only thing Loyola and Tulane really have in common is location. Other than that, the student body, academics, programming, and campus life in general are pretty different at each school. It really depends on your preference.</p>
<p>I have a few friends at Tulane, but they are people I knew before coming to college, not friends I made once I got here. I’ve been able to keep up friendships with them without a problem. </p>
<p>I have, however, encountered many “snobby” Tulane students. I wouldn’t say this is typical for the majority of the student body, though. Loyola students don’t feel any sort of animosity towards Tulane students. Many of my friends at Loyola were accepted at Tulane but chose Loyola and couldn’t be happier. Some, including myself, didn’t even apply to Tulane- it just didn’t spark my interest like Loyola did. </p>
<p>It is also true that Loyola has a more diverse student body than Tulane. Both schools have significant populations of Louisiana residents in addition to their out of staters. I’d say Loyola has more students from different economic and racial/ethnic backgrounds than Tulane. </p>
<p>All these things aside, though, I’d like to reiterate my first bit of advice: Visit both campuses and get an idea of what each one is like and you’ll be able to make the most informed decision. Good luck!</p>
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<p>Let’s put some numbers to that to clarify. Let’s just look at the latest class, since that doesn’t mix in the people attending night school at Tulane.</p>
<p>From Loyola’s Common Data Set:</p>
<p>Total First-time students (Full time, degree seeking): 763
Hispanic: 98 (12.8%)
Black: 131 (17.2%)
White: 423 (55.4%)
Asian: 33 (4.3%)
Others: 78 (10.2%)</p>
<p>From Tulane’s CDS:</p>
<p>Total First-time students (Full time, degree seeking): 1,642
Hispanic: 77 (4.7%)
Black: 47 (2.9%)
White: 1,249 (76.1%)
Asian: 64 (3.9%)
Others: 205 (12.5%)</p>
<p>Now let’s look at geographic diversity, just in terms of New Orleans and Louisiana residents versus OOS:</p>
<p>Loyola: 58% OOS, so 42% in state. 34% overall are from New Orleans metro area, so 81% of the Louisiana residents are from New Orleans.</p>
<p>Tulane: 86% OOS, so 14% in state. I cannot find exact numbers on those from the New Orleans metro area, but I believe it has generally been about 8-9% in the past.</p>
<p>So I think it is fair to say that Loyola is more diverse ethnically, while Tulane is more diverse geographically.</p>
<p>Tulane is more diverse geographically in that it has a lot of OOS students. However, so many are from the northeast, it really does not have the feel of diverse geography. The short of it is Loyola has more of a local feel with an out of state presence, and Tulane has a northeast feel with a presence of people outside of the east</p>
<p>Fallen lists 34% as the # of Loyola students from the New Orleans area, and there is a strong local flavor as a result. Tulane has about the same percentage of students from the northeast, and you get that flavor there, despite the fact that more students are from outside the northeast than from the northeast.</p>
<p>According to Tulane, 35% from the northeast.</p>
<p><a href=“http://admission.tulane.edu/apply/gettinginto.php[/url]”>http://admission.tulane.edu/apply/gettinginto.php</a></p>
<p>Mrpapageorgia - true, but remember that Tulane defines the “northeast” as everything from Maine to Maryland, including Pennsylvania. Not sure where they put Ohio. There is little similarity in general experience and background between someone from New Hampshire and NYC, and between either of those and Pittsburgh. It doesn’t strike me as valid to say that 1/3 from an area as relatively small as New Orleans is comparable to having 1/3 being from an area as large as Tulane’s “northeast”.</p>
<p>In the end, while this does make a difference in the feel of the schools, it isn’t nearly as important as many of the other factors mentioned.</p>
<p>My only point was the statistics seem to back up the “feel” I got from both campuses. Loyola does not feel like a commuter school, but it definitely has a local flavor. Tulane definitely does not have a local feel, but has a northeast flavor. I’m just trying to give people an idea of the differences in the schools.</p>
<p>It is just my opinion, but the feeling one gets from Tulane is well-to-do, east coast, intelligent, high-achieving students who take academics seriously. Although I get your point that there is a difference between comparing the percent from N.O. to an entire region, there is that feel. For example, say if a school in Minnesota had over 1/3 of its students from the south, and when you went there you noticed a strong southern atmosphere. It doesn’t really matter that the 1/3 are from the south as opposed to a specific southern city. The school would not feel as if it is very diverse geographically, due to such a strong representation from the south and the southern feel. That is my expereince with Tulane. And BTW, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that feel…personally, I like the feel of Tulane…a feeling of being at a strong academic institution. The fact that it attracts so many people from so far away in my mind makes it feel all the more intellectual, as people come from afar to go there.</p>
<p>Do you feel different? Honestly, I never have spoken with people familiar with Tulane who have a very different impression.</p>
<p>I don’t differ with the general sentiment you express. I guess to me it is more of a problem of definition. I am not sure what “northeast feeling” means, and I suspect too many people hear that and just fill in the stereotypical NYC personality. Maybe it would be more accurate to say it has less of a southern school feel than one might expect, and that is certainly true. Then again, New Orleans isn’t stereotypical Southern anyway. I know a lot of people are surprised that native NOLAs don’t have a southern drawl.</p>
<p>I think you always hear about the kids from the northeast more because Tulane is a school in the South, but the population is much more mixed than just northeasterners and southerners. My son, a freshman, lives on a floor that is predominantly people from the northeast. That being said, the majority of his closest friends are from the South (Texas, Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia). There is also a large population from the Chicago and Boston areas as well as California. While the differences seemed quite obvious to him initially, I don’t think he even notices them any more. They all mix well and seem “fit” at Tulane. For him, that was really the point of attending a school like Tulane and he has loved every minute of it. The local flavor of New Orleans comes from venturing off campus more so than from going to a school located in New Orleans.</p>
<p>Tulane comes off as being a bunch of snobby, rich Jewish kids, but it’s all about finding the right people. Everyone makes friends, goes out, and has fun, not just those people. There are hundreds of people who can only come to Tulane because of their scholarship and wouldn’t be able to afford it otherwise. Everyone pretty much goes to the same bars and parties, but its all about who you are with. There are people like that at any school and I did not find it hard at all to find a good group of friends. Most of my friends are not from the north east (even though I am).</p>
<p>I think the rivalry exists between Tulane and Loyola because we lack a good sports rivalry with any other school. If we had an amazing football team and competed against LSU, I don’t think the negativity towards Loyola would be as big. It is what it is, but I wouldn’t write off Tulane just because of that. Tulane is an amazing school, has a lot to offer, and a degree from Tulane would definitely be worth more than one from Loyola. They are also very generous with scholarships, which many other elite schools are not.</p>
<p>I visited both schools during their Spring break, so I didn’t actually get to see the classes in action. So what are the classroom differences between Tulane and Loyola (I would like answers from those who cross-enrolled between Tulane and Loyola)?</p>