<p>Better campus, better location, better sports, better weather (shocking, right?), less pretentious/ cut throat students. Equivalent social life, superior econ program (though inferior philosophy). Kellog certificate, Kaplan Humanities Scholars Program (should be right in your vain of interest). Lake > Gorges. Smaller undergraduate body. Better theater scene, infinitely better comedy scene...</p>
<p>JDorian: Georgetown's School of Foreign Service, possibly yes; but Georgetown's business school over Northwestern's economics--no. Not unless being in D.C. is important to you.</p>
<p>My daughter was very interested in NU ISP and was accepted. However, the financial aid was non-existent, and she got a substantial offer from Princeton. So that settled it for her.</p>
<p>It seems like so many people are turning down NU due to finances. NU really needs to up its FA and start some generous merit-aid program to compete better. Maybe a terrible yield this year would finally make them do it!</p>
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NU > Duke??? No way... Well my personal opinion is this: Duke is basically the same school as NU in terms of social atmosphere, except Duke has more prestige and better financial aid, not to mention a significantly more ballin basketball team. In pretty much every academic area (except business schools- kellogg clearly has the advantage there and the arts) Duke is better. There's no comparison. However, I will agree with the rest of your choices, bc. NU is certainly a solid school.
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<p>CNI - Northwestern has more programs ranked in the top 10, top 20 and top 30 than Duke.</p>
<p>As for prestige - yeah, Duke gets a slight edge, but that's in large part due to the East Coast bias (Duke gets a lot of the prep kids from NY, NJ, Conn).</p>
<p>Personally, I turned down Duke and a no. of Ivies b/c I wanted to have access to a major city and not be stuck in the "boonies" (ultimately came down btwn NU and Penn).</p>
<p>And while Duke BB is clearly better (though Duke has been getting bounced early from the Tourney lately due to not having any top-tier big men), in college, football is king and NU FB is set to make a run at the upper tier of the conf. - esp. now that Coach Fitz has put in his own coaching staff w/ a new O and D co-ordinators.</p>
<p>As for BB - NU has 4 All-State recruits coming in (2 from IL and 2 from MI) and is in the hunt for some of the top recruits in IL for 2009.</p>
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As for BB - NU has 4 All-State recruits coming in (2 from IL and 2 from MI) and is in the hunt for some of the top recruits in IL for 2009.
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Oh no! I hope they are not starting to <em>significantly</em> lower the admission standard for BB players like Duke has done for many years. I am skeptical now.</p>
<p>^ No - the admissions office is just as hard-arsed as always when it comes to recruits (Carmody lost a no. of recruits to schools like Syracuse due to academic issues).</p>
<p>Turning down Northwestern for either Harvard, Yale, or Princeton. Yale's financial aid worked out so wonderfully that it would cost me 5 times more per year to go to Northwestern! craaaazy. I sent in my decline to Northwestern a couple days later.</p>
<p>I came across this and found it pretty interesting. Hope this helps</p>
<p>"Duke enrolls between 75 and 90 percent of cross-admitted students from the third group of top competitors, which includes Cornell, Northwestern and Georgetown."</p>
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Oh no! I hope they are not starting to <em>significantly</em> lower the admission standard for BB players like Duke has done for many years. I am skeptical now.
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<p>It's not low enough to get past the first round though.</p>
<p>I don't get why you keep coming to NU board to express your superiority complex. I hope you don't go around thinking you are better than Cornell/NU grads. That kind of attitude isn't likely going to get you far in life.</p>
<p>The article referenced in post #54 was interesting. Duke University ranks sixth for the number of National Merit Scholars enrolled compared to Northwestern's third place ranking. Duke, like Stanford (according to the article) stands alone as the elite university in its region, while Northwestern & Chicago are neighbors. Duke offers some of the best merit scholarships available at an elite university, while Northwestern has paltry, token merit aid scholarships of $2,000 for NMS & $3,500 for another category of student. Northwestern's current endowment should be above $7 billion (current--not "last reported") placing it well into the top ten nationally--possibly now tied with Columbia and probably well ahead of Duke. If Northwestern wanted to play the "ratings game" by accepting a lower percentage of applicants and relying on an inflated waitlist to fill its class, and by offering substantial merit scholarships similiar to Duke, then Northwestern University's ratings would rise and cross admit battles with schools such as Duke might be a very different story. Northwestern University along with its massive financial strength and stellar academics seems content to accept its identity and current position in the pecking order of elite universities. A new president will take office at Northwestern University in about 14 months and will decide , along with the board of trustees, where they want to position Northwestern University. Unlike Duke, Northwestern is currently content with its position in the pecking order of elite national universities; if Northwestern wants more prestige and better rankings, it has the resources to significantly affect these areas.</p>
<p>I just want to say that it's simply idiotic to compare ranking differences between schools like Duke, NU, and Vanderbilt. They're all great academically, and you will NOT notice any difference in academics because one is ranked top 10 and the other is only top 15. That's just clownish.</p>
<p>i think I'm turning down NU for Stanford, or a few other schools, but not sure yet. I really love MMSS too, but I don't get to fully decide anyway because of my parents. NU is great nonetheless</p>