<p>Hey guys, just out of complete curiosity...what sort of jobs (as in salaries, and for what types of companies) would an average MBA graduate from an ivy league school expect?</p>
<p>I know it's a very vague quesiton, but just in general, more of an average is what I'm after.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>Thank you. Wow, so it looks like those graduating from an ivy are going to have really damn good starting salaries :)</p>
<p>It depends on what industry you're looking into.</p>
<p>MBA and Ivy aren't necessarily related. Only three of the eight Ivies (Penn, Harvard, Columbia) have a top 7 MBA program.</p>
<p>Cornell and Dartmouth also have top programs. Tuck was ranked #1 MBA by the Wall Street Journal, and Cornell's program is probably top 10-15.</p>
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<p>WSJ has little credibility as far as B-school rankings. This is the same ranking that once ranked Stanford somewhere in the 40's, and even this year, has HBS ranked only in the teens. I don't think anybody seriously believes that HBS is only in the teens.</p>
<p>Either way, Tuck is a very very good b-school. It as a reputation for being better for slightly older candidates (28-32) and for having solid management grads.</p>
<p>It doesn't really matter where a b-school is ranked...because the only way a b-school is really measured is by career opportunities. And all the Ivy League b-schools give grads very good opportunities to make a lot of money.</p>
<p>How in the world would the WSJ generate such odd rankings? What are they measuring?</p>
<p>Apparently WSJ really doesn't like Wharton.</p>
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<p>WSJ ranks SOLELY recruiter feedback and satisfaction. </p>
<p>The major problem with that is that recruiter satisfaction is an extremely poor metric for measuring the value of a business school. Some business schools are particularly infamous for ticking off recruiters. Harvard and Stanford, for example, are well known for producing graduates that give recruiters difficulty, because they make so many demands (i.e. high salaries, lots of power and perks, a star career track, etc.). In fact, I was talking to one recruiter who visited Harvard Business School who said that he felt like he had gotten run over by a truck, because while he clearly found some people he wanted to hire, they all demanded compensation packages that vastly exceeded what his company was prepared to offer. He also said that his company would most likely never recruit at Harvard again. I have heard that the major problem with Stanford is that recruiters complain that they can't get the graduates to take jobs outside of Silicon Valley. </p>
<p>But I don't necessarily see this as a bad thing to tick off recruiters. In fact, in many ways, I see it as a GOOD thing. HBS and Stanford grads tick off a lot of recruiters with their demand because they ** know they can **, specifically because they know they have many nice job offers available to them, so they can play recruiters off against each other. Obviously the recruiters don't like that, but the students like that very much. You gotta remember what the recruiters are after. What they really want is not just top talent, but ultimately what they want is top talent who is willing to work for the lowest possible salary, and who will do grunt work without complaint. Students obviously want the exact opposite. If a HBS grad has a nice job offer at McKinsey waiting for him (as a significant percentage of each HBS class does), why would he turn that down to work for some no-name employer, unless that employer was willing to offer him a stellar package and career opportunity? If the recruiter for that employer gets ticked off and doesn't want to offer that, fine, that student will simply take the job at McKinsey. </p>
<p>So I think it is not surprising to discover that recruiters don't "like" particular name-brand schools. But I don't necessarily view this as a weakness of the school. If anything, it's probably a strength. Recruiters are frustrated with certain schools because the students have "too many" other opportunities and so they don't have to play nice.</p>