<p>What tasing incident in Alaska? The one that made Sarah Palin so mad? Or the tase and release hunting regulation we are considering?</p>
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<p>This is oxymoron. Wouldn’t you think intoxicated people are more likely not to follow orders from the police leading them to use tasers? Yet tasering is more fatal for them! Who makes tasers? It may be their lobbying, not the necessity that got tasers in the hand of the police.</p>
<p>Could he possibly have been on steroids?</p>
<p>“Could he possibly have been on steroids?”</p>
<p>I was wondering the same thing. However, if the victim was trying to lose weight, would the use of steroids accomplish that? I generally associate steroids with muscle gain, not weight loss. It might explain some of the behavior and medical issues but I am no expert on steroids.</p>
<p>On a personal note, I am a proud UC alumni, as a Criminal Justice major I had the opportunity to work with the campus police, so this whole situation is just very tragic and sad.</p>
<p>Steroids cut fat and add muscle. For wrestlers the most muscle per pound would be a goal and an advantage.</p>
<p>No need for steroids. He didn’t dive to the floor and lick the police boots fast enough, so he got tasered.</p>
<p>“Or the tase and release hunting regulation we are considering?” #81</p>
<p>momof1, I was referencing the other tasing incident. I hadn’t heard about this one, and it doesn’t sound like I want to hear more.</p>
<p>After doing some googling about this young man, I learned that he was also tasered once in his HS because of his aggressive behavior towards an authority figure. At that time, he was transferred to the hospital after being tasered. It was found that he had an underlying heart defect (murmur).</p>
<p>Within this same year, this young man finds himself getting tasered again at this college upward bound program. IMO–there very well may be a behavior problem with this young man (aggression and/or lack of respect for people in authority). For someone to feel the need to taser him once–that’s one thing. For it to happen again in a totally different environment, it makes me wonder if this young man has a short fuse and/or reacts aggressively when things don’t go his way.</p>
<p>I seriously doubt the security guy who tasered him knew that this young man had a heart defect. I seriously doubt the security guy tasered him just for the hell of it. I’m very sorry that this young man died from being tasered, but I’m not ready to blame the security guy for his death.</p>
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Or, as has already been discussed, the police department was TASER HAPPY. You can assume he was a trouble maker, or the police department OVER TASED people. </p>
<p>You don’t have to blame anybody. It is usually a departmental decision - not one police officer. But it is the POLICY set by the department - CHIEF OF POLICE OR SHERIFF OR DA OR CITY COUNCIL OR MAYOR OR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS - the DECIDERS vary by jurisdiction.</p>
<p>[Friends</a> Remember Teen Who Died In Taser Incident - Cincinnati News Story - WLWT Cincinnati](<a href=“http://www.wlwt.com/r/28797057/detail.html]Friends”>Cincinnati News, Weather and Sports - Ohio News - WLWT Channel 5)</p>
<p>From the article:</p>
<p>Howard was previously stunned by a Taser during a Jan. 9, 2009, incident at North College Hill Junior High School.
Police officers said Howard had become ill while trying to lose weight for a wrestling match. Paramedics were called to the school to help, but officers said the teen was unresponsive until he suddenly jumped from his chair, growled and took an aggressive stance.
A coach attempted to wrap up Howard in a bear hug, and officers wrestled the teen to the ground but were unable to place him in handcuffs, so they said they shocked him with a Taser.</p>
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<p>Even his hs wrestling coach couldn’t get him under control.</p>
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<p>You interpret the 2009 incident as representing “his aggressive behavior towards an authority figure” rather than as a medical emergency where an unresponsive patient who suddenly comes around shows confusion and panic. (low blood sugar incident - [Death</a> raises Taser safety questions | Cincinnati.com | cincinnati.com](<a href=“Cincinnati News, Sports and Things to Do | Cincinnati Enquirer”>Cincinnati News, Sports and Things to Do | Cincinnati Enquirer) )</p>
<p>The wrestling coach does not seem to have the same impression of Mr. Howard:
““Just knowing Everette, I feel like it had to have been a case of pulling the trigger too soon,” said Howard’s former wresting coach Tim Sies.” Or, as his football coach put it:
““Everyone else kind of looks up at him,” Key said. “I’ve never seen Everette disrespectful to authority. I’ve never seen him in a violent rage or anything other than competition on the football field or wrestling mat.””
[Coaches</a> Remember Student Who Died After Being Struck By Taser | Ohio News Network (ONN)](<a href=“Columbus' Leading Local News: Weather, Traffic, Sports and more in Columbus, Ohio | 10tv.com”>Columbus' Leading Local News: Weather, Traffic, Sports and more in Columbus, Ohio | 10tv.com)</p>
<p>(cross posted with parent1986)</p>
<p>His low blood sugar level wasn’t discovered until after the incident. According to his family, he didn’t suffer from diabetes. His low blood sugar at the time seems to have been brought on by the student trying to meet a weight level for a wrestling match. Whether his behavior was brought on by a low blood sugar level, other issues, drugs, or whatever–it doesn’t change the fact that his behavior was enough for his wrestling coach to try to subdue him (which he couldn’t) and for the police to have resorted to using the taser to handcuff him (which may have been done for his own safety as well as for the safety of those around him).</p>
<p>Again, I’m very sorry about the death of this young man and my thoughts are with his family.</p>
<p>It’s irrelevant when his low blood sugar was discovered and/or that somebody tried to restrain him. What is relevant is that it is inhumane to shock and torture people because their behavior is unacceptable. There are other ways to subdue acting out people that are less dangerous and more humane. </p>
<p>Do you taser your dog when he won’t stop barking, etc.? Where I live there are cruelty to animal laws and if you did taser your dog you would go to jail.</p>
<p>^Of course I would not taser a dog if it barked. However, if that same dog ran at me bearing his teeth and growling and he did not stop when I firmly gave it a universal dog command such as–“NO!” or “Sit” or “Down”–and I had a taser in my hand, I very well may taser it to save myself or others from being physically harmed.</p>
<p>[UC</a> deletes large portions of Taser death incident reports | Cincinnati.com | cincinnati.com](<a href=“Cincinnati News, Sports and Things to Do | Cincinnati Enquirer”>Cincinnati News, Sports and Things to Do | Cincinnati Enquirer)</p>
<p>[UC</a> Asks For External Review in Teen’s Taser Death - :: Cincinnati news story :: LOCAL 12 WKRC-TV in Cincinnati](<a href=“http://www.local12.com/news/local/story/UC-Asks-For-External-Review-in-Teens-Taser-Death/3RlxHDWHD0qc594DiDxnrw.cspx]UC”>http://www.local12.com/news/local/story/UC-Asks-For-External-Review-in-Teens-Taser-Death/3RlxHDWHD0qc594DiDxnrw.cspx)</p>
<p>New reports reveal different eye witness accounts and police cover up and external investigation.</p>
<p>Asking for and following through with an external investigation after a death is not out of the ordinary. </p>
<p>The use of the word “Deletes” in the headline is a bit misleading. Information is being withheld (not deleted) until the thorough investigation has been completed.</p>
<p>It’s very important to wait until all of the information has been collected and the outside investigation has been completed before making any judgements.</p>
<p>UC deletes large portions of Taser death incident reports | Cincinnati.com | cincinnati.com</p>
<p><a href=“Cincinnati News, Sports and Things to Do | Cincinnati Enquirer”>Cincinnati News, Sports and Things to Do | Cincinnati Enquirer;
<p>READ THE ACTUAL POLICE REPORTS AND LISTEN TO 911 CALLS</p>
<p>“But the university “redacted,” or blacked out, even basic information from the reports such as names, birthdates and addresses, despite Ohio law’s presumption that public records, including police reports, are open.”</p>
<p>“• Listen to the first 911 call • Listen to the second 911 call”</p>
<p>“An incident report … is required to be turned over, unredacted, upon request under the Public Records Act,” said Jack Greiner, attorney for the Enquirer."</p>
<p>“The Christian Science Monitor reported Monday that Howard was among three people in the U.S. to die after being shocked with Tasers this past weekend.”</p>
<p>"A Taser administers 50,000 volts, intended to temporarily immobilize a person’s muscles so officers can gain control of a combative person. " </p>
<p>“Since 2001, Amnesty International has recorded more than 340 deaths in North America following police use of Tasers.”</p>
<p>“Two years ago, Taser’s manufacturer, Arizona-based Taser International, began warning law enforcement agencies to avoid stunning suspects in the upper chest, a way of alleviating concerns that the weapon’s volt shock could affect the heart.”</p>
<p>Sounds like the police in general need to think of Tasers as the lethal weapon they are. </p>
<p>What about using Mace as a non-lethal weapon first? When the subject doesn’t have a weapon, I mean.</p>
<p>Mace can be ineffective on many angry suspects and nearly always also impacts the person using the mace through blowback in the air.
340 deaths following use does not mean the use caused the death. How many incidents of use were there? 1,000,000?? more–less. What is the death rate versus getting shot?</p>