<p>I am sure if we on CC are great experts on what is a safe way to deal with potential criminals. What police needs to do when they are not taking control over situation? Back off? What if backing off by police will cause injury/death of completely innocent / uninvolved bystenders? Would not police than be sued for not performing its duty of protecting public? How police could be responsible for both protecting and not protecting? How they could be responsible for determinning right there on a spot if a potential criminal is under chemical influence or not? I believe that police academy needs to include Medical and Law schools and maybe some other graduate training to be able to perform its duty correctly according to opinions of many citizens. Otherwise, why we even have a police force if policemen are not allowed to protect us? What a waste, just dismiss them, it would save us whole ton of $$$. They cannot do their job without being sued anyway.</p>
<p>Perhaps that is the expectation of police in your native country #101, but it isn’t the expectation of police in the U.S.</p>
<p>Expectation of police in every country on earth is the same - to protect citizens. What other expectations there are? Provide more income to lawyers? Did you mean that?</p>
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<p>Governments throughout the world and throughout history have also had the expectation that law enforcement personnel can be used to stifle dissent. That is why it is so very important for the public to demand transparency from and analyze the policies and actions of law enforcement.</p>
<p>[Taser</a> deaths renew criticism of police tactics, activists decry brutality | Alaska Dispatch](<a href=“http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/taser-related-deaths-renew-criticism-police-tactics]Taser”>http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/taser-related-deaths-renew-criticism-police-tactics)</p>
<p>Three taser deaths this week.</p>
<p>Taser use suspended at University of Cincinnati</p>
<p>“law enforcement personnel can be used to stifle dissent”</p>
<p>-I did not know that U of Cinci represented dissent. Sorry I missed that.</p>
<p>“law enforcement personnel can be used to stifle riots”
See London, Philly, Chicago, Milwaukee and so on.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/10/flashmob-attacks-in-us-cities-raise-questions-over-possible-race-motivation/[/url]”>http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/10/flashmob-attacks-in-us-cities-raise-questions-over-possible-race-motivation/</a></p>
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<p>Hardly… There is a standard set for behavior in this country. If you violate that standard you pay the price so to speak.</p>
<p>Tasering is one of the most effective “non-lethal” methods in use. Would you prefer rubber bullets shot from a shotgun? Or perhaps a baton to the face? A choke hold? A nice calm plea from a therapist? A hug?</p>
<p>In an ideal world every police officer would be a Jet Li kung fu master with a Ph.D in psychology and an MD psychiatry with extensive training in empathy and conflict management plus a futuristic hypoallergenic tranq that causes no side effects and is perfectly harmless.</p>
<p>Until then… Keep the peace, stay on your meds and pray that you don’t have an illness that affects your behavior or psychotic episode…</p>
<p>““law enforcement personnel can be used to stifle riots”
See London, Philly, Chicago, Milwaukee and so on.”</p>
<p>-I was under impression that this thread is about one person in Cincinnatti, OH. Sorry for misunderstanding.</p>
<p>A small unarmed guy should not have been attacked with a potentially lethal weapon. Let him refuse police ‘orders’ and bring appropriate charges later, but policing is not about exacting abject submission from a population, in a civilized country.</p>
<p>Some new photos.</p>
<p>[Three</a> deaths in one weekend puts Taser use by cops in crosshairs - CSMonitor.com](<a href=“http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2011/0808/Three-deaths-in-one-weekend-puts-Taser-use-by-cops-in-crosshairs]Three”>Three deaths in one weekend puts Taser use by cops in crosshairs - CSMonitor.com)</p>
<p>[TNT</a> - TRUTH … not TASERS](<a href=“http://truthnottasers.blogspot.com/]TNT”>http://truthnottasers.blogspot.com/)</p>
<p>[Ohio</a> Campus Cops Execute Star Athlete with Taser | COTO Report](<a href=“http://coto2.■■■■■■■■■■■■■/2011/08/09/ohio-campus-cops-execute-star-athlete-student-with-taser/]Ohio”>http://coto2.■■■■■■■■■■■■■/2011/08/09/ohio-campus-cops-execute-star-athlete-student-with-taser/)</p>
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They shot people, or hit people with clubs. Police are going to use force to stop a person who is approaching the police and refusing to stop. And they are going to preferentially use a method which reduces the threat of harm to themselves. The taser was designed to be such a method, but less dangerous than a regular gun. And it is.
Because police are human beings, there will always be incidents of excessive force, and controversies over what really happened, etc. It is certainly worth asking whether police are using tasers in situations in which they would not have used guns or other significant force–but I’d much, much rather be tased than shot, that’s for sure.</p>
<p>There will also always be people who distrust all police, and think that police are all brutal thugs. However, people who feel this way never seem to move to countries that have no police.</p>
<p>Well said Mr. Hunt</p>
<p>Tasers are an extremely effective tool for the police. They RARELY have been the sole result of a death. Death when a taser has been used is more than often related to an underlying condition. In fact the case they lost was in regards to a California man who was under the influence of meth. (Get the right lawyer, or should I say jury, and you can win most any case. Just look at Casey Anthony.) Fists and clubs can do the job as well, but they usually leave lasting effects. </p>
<p>The taser reduces the risk of injury to the officers and bystanders. I have been hit with a taser as a part of training and it is a horrible experience, but it’s not made for comfort. My small department has used it approximately fifty times in the past year and no one died as a result.</p>
<p>In that year no officer discharged his firearm, though there were a few instances where it would have been okay to do so, but the taser was employed. </p>
<p>I have used it on four occasions and it has worked every time.</p>
<p>In fact one psychiatric patient thanked us for tasing him as he said it was what he needed! Yell and scream all you want, but do what the nice policeman tells you and you won’t be tased. gettingridofson #75</p>
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<h2>It would be interesting to know the actual percentage of “approximately 50 times tased” in this “small department.”</h2>
<p>It is certainly worth asking whether police are using tasers in situations in which they would not have used guns or other significant force…Hunt #112</p>
<h2>I’d much, much rather be tased than shot, that’s for sure. Hunt #112</h2>
<p>Because they have access to lethal force, police have to be held to a higher standard than other people.</p>
<p>Tasers are definitely being used when means other than a firearm could have. As proven, the taser will not leave a lasting effect whereas impact weapons like a baton, slapper or fists could. Similarly it prevents the officer from being subjected to getting harmed as easily as if he/she went hands on.<br>
Are there instances where tasers were improperly employed? Most definitely.</p>
<p>[Police</a> reports shed new light on Taser death on campus|UWIRE](<a href=“http://uwire.com/2011/08/11/25111/]Police”>http://uwire.com/2011/08/11/25111/)</p>
<p><a href=“https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B7f4_ohEI3YZNTI0ZmUyZjgtZTk0Yy00M2NhLWE3ZWYtMzBkYmFmNDU0MjMy&hl=en_US[/url]”>https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B7f4_ohEI3YZNTI0ZmUyZjgtZTk0Yy00M2NhLWE3ZWYtMzBkYmFmNDU0MjMy&hl=en_US</a></p>
<p>Sounds like a lot of chaos and fighting going on. Add to that the partying and it’s a recipe for disaster. It makes me crazy when I see students being given opportunities and for them to choose poor behavior and bad decisions over positive participation in a program.</p>
<p>[R.I.P</a> Everette Howard | Facebook](<a href=“http://www.facebook.com/pages/RIP-Everette-Howard/201854406538983]R.I.P”>Redirecting...)</p>
<p>‘We are extremely unhappy and upset at the outcome of this call,’ Corcoran said. ‘No one wants to see the death of an 18-year-old. It was not anyone’s intention. The officer is very distraught.’</p>
<p>Being held to a higher standard…</p>
<p><a href=“https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B7f4_ohEI3YZOTMxMzAzZmMtMjc0ZS00ZmQwLTlkZGQtMWY3Y2MxMTZmMTU5&hl=en_US[/url]”>https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B7f4_ohEI3YZOTMxMzAzZmMtMjc0ZS00ZmQwLTlkZGQtMWY3Y2MxMTZmMTU5&hl=en_US</a></p>
<p>Above link is to a very detailed police report of the 2009 tasering assault on the murdered boy.</p>
<p>I think one should be cautious about using words like “murdered” when you don’t have all the facts.</p>
<p>[Taser</a> policies slow to form on college campuses - USATODAY.com](<a href=“http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2011-08-15-college-campus-taser-policy_n.htm]Taser”>http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2011-08-15-college-campus-taser-policy_n.htm)</p>
<p>[Shocking</a> Love: Police Taser and Pepper Spray Deaf, Mentally Disabled Man for Not Complying With Orders JONATHAN TURLEY](<a href=“http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/28/shocking-love-story-police-taser-and-pepper-spray-deaf-mentally-disabled-man-for-not-complying-with-orders/]Shocking”>Shocking Love: Police Taser and Pepper Spray Deaf, Mentally Disabled Man for Not Complying With Orders – JONATHAN TURLEY)</p>
<p>[Seventh</a> Circuit Allows “Death By Taser” Suit to Proceed JONATHAN TURLEY](<a href=“http://jonathanturley.org/2010/11/13/seventh-circuit-allows-death-by-taser-suit-to-proceed/]Seventh”>Seventh Circuit Allows “Death By Taser” Suit to Proceed – JONATHAN TURLEY)</p>
<p>[Man</a> Tasered to Death After Traffic Accident Bender as Report Shows Fatalities Rising From Tasers Across the Country JONATHAN TURLEY](<a href=“http://jonathanturley.org/2008/01/18/man-tasered-to-death-after-traffic-accident-bender-as-report-shows-fatalities-rising-from-tasers-across-the-country/]Man”>Man Tasered to Death After Traffic Accident Bender as Report Shows Fatalities Rising From Tasers Across the Country – JONATHAN TURLEY)</p>
<p>[Pittsburgh</a> Police Officers Beat and Taser Fan JONATHAN TURLEY](<a href=“http://jonathanturley.org/2011/04/12/pittsburgh-police-officers-beat-and-taser-fan/]Pittsburgh”>Pittsburgh Police Officers Beat and Taser Fan – JONATHAN TURLEY)</p>
<p>[Police</a> Taser Man Trying to Save Pets in Fire JONATHAN TURLEY](<a href=“http://jonathanturley.org/2010/09/07/police-taser-man-trying-to-save-pets-in-fire/]Police”>Police Taser Man Trying to Save Pets in Fire – JONATHAN TURLEY)</p>
<p>[Cops</a> Break Saggin’ Sophomore’s Arm and Taser Him JONATHAN TURLEY](<a href=“http://jonathanturley.org/2011/05/07/cops-break-saggin-sophomores-arm-and-taser-him/]Cops”>Cops Break Saggin’ Sophomore’s Arm and Taser Him – JONATHAN TURLEY)</p>
<p>[Toronto</a> Police Officer Pleads Guilty to Coercing Prisoners With Taser JONATHAN TURLEY](<a href=“http://jonathanturley.org/2011/02/08/toronto-police-officer-pleads-guilty-to-coercing-prisoners-with-taser/]Toronto”>Toronto Police Officer Pleads Guilty to Coercing Prisoners With Taser – JONATHAN TURLEY)</p>
<p>[New</a> Hampshire Police Criticized For Tasering Wandering Cow JONATHAN TURLEY](<a href=“http://jonathanturley.org/2011/06/13/new-hampshire-police-criticized-for-tasering-wandering-cow/]New”>New Hampshire Police Criticized For Tasering Wandering Cow – JONATHAN TURLEY)</p>
<p>This is really getting tiresome. You don’t like cops; we get that. Can we please move on?</p>