U of M Ann Arbor vs UNC Chapel Hill vs Loyola University

<p>Some of them look like may be nonrefundable once you deposit so check the websites. If you’ve already paid the deposits at Michigan and UNC, I’m not sure it would be a good idea to email them but maybe someone else has a different thought on that. Looks llke notification date from JHU is May 15th and you need to deposit by May 30th, Stanford’s notification date is also May 15th and you need to deposit by June 1st. So, you will know soon . I’m sure this is stressful so take care.</p>

<p>Thank you everyone. After talking with my parents, we have agreed to knock out Loyola. My dad being a Michigan fan has agreed to cover the additional $10k in tuition that Michigan has over UNC. So it has now just come down to academics and campus life. </p>

<p>I plan to major in psychology, and take my pre med courses. I’m looking for more smaller class sizes, and if possible to be taught more by the professors rather than TA’s. I’ve heard that Michigan has a better reputation than UNC, not to say that UNC isn’t good. When it comes to academics, I’m more attracted to Michigan, but that could maybe be because I’ve heard more about Michigan and how good it is rather than UNC (I don’t know too much about UNC to be honest). </p>

<p>As far as campus life, I found both schools are willing to work with me and my doctors to allow to get my checkups there. UNC has the advantage. Warmer weather is a huge thing for me, even though I am used to the cold having grown up in Chicago. Another thing about UNC is the off campus housing seems to be better. I prefer to live on my own, and I can get nicer places in NC and at a cheaper price than I would on Ann Arbor, where it seems to be mainly older buildings, and the newer ones are extremely expensive. </p>

<p>I’ve been having trouble deciding between these two schools as I am more attracted to the academic side of Michigan (even though they rank so similarly), but the weather and housing at UNC seems to be better. I know I am considering the wrong things, but what I want to know is just how big of a difference there is between the two, and does Michigan really have that reputation that UNC does not have?</p>

<p>Michigan’s reputational edge over UNC is insignificant. It will not impact your future whatsoever. Medical schools do not differentiate between UNC and any other top university, including Michigan. Things to consider:</p>

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<li><p>Classroom interaction with faculty in intermediate and advanced science classes
Both Michigan and UNC will offer you ample opportunities to get to know your professors, whether in smaller intermediate and advanced level classes, or through research/publishing opportunities. People underestimate the opportunities available to students at schools like Michigan or UNC. Few universities can match them.</p></li>
<li><p>Internships at medical facilities
Again, both Michigan and UNC students have excellent opportunities. Michigan’s University hospitals are among the best in the nation, as are UNC’s and Duke’s, both of which will be open to UNC students who take the initiative.</p></li>
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<p>Rationally, I would recommend UNC as it would save you $40k. But your parents probably want you in Michigan (your father because of his experience there and your mother because she is protective over you and wants you close to home). It is a tough decision. I really hope you get into Northwestern and that they offer you a handsome FA package. That would be ideal. Excellent academics, affordable and best of all, close to home!</p>

<p>I wouldn’t recommend you to live alone and off campus. During your first year (even if you have sophomore academic standing it’ll still be your first year there), you can request a single for medical reasons but try to see if you can join a science-based LLC in order to have a small community with built-in common interests as this helps making such huge universities feel less impersonal.</p>

<p>I agree that UNC would be the better choice for someone who wants warmer weather, as academically both are equivalent.</p>

<p>As far as finances, they will be the same. My dad said if I go to Michigan, he will pay the difference just because he wants me to go there and my mom constantly bugs him about it. From what I’ve understood from you guys is that from an academic point of view, they are both relatively close. </p>

<p>But when I looked up rankings by major, Michigan is much higher than UNC in psychology, but it also seems that medical schools wouldn’t favor one of the schools as they are relatively the same. However, is there a way to find out what there medical school acceptance rate is (i.e. what percent of their undergrads get into medical school) and who has the stronger pre med program?</p>

<p>With both strong schools like this, I wouldn’t worry about medical school acceptance rates. I’m sure they both do fine with that and their top students will do okay. All the statistics and acceptance rates in the world won’t help . It will be up to you to do well once you get to school.</p>

<p>Michigan sounds like a good compromise with your parents-they like it, you seem to like it , it is easier for you and for them than UNC in the unlikely event that something would come up medically for you. Have you heard from any more schools yet?</p>

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<p>Good advice. The easiest way to make friends at college is by getting to know other freshman on your floor, etc. I understand your medical issues, but i would try to find a solution that includes living in freshman housing if at all possible. If you like living alone, keep in mind that certain schools have singles available for freshmen. I would go so far as to suggest that I would make living arrangements the number one criteria in selecting between UM, UNC, Northwestern and even Loyola. If only one of them can best accommodate your medical issues, I would choose that one. </p>

<p>A comfortable social life will put you in a better position to succeed academically and will obviously make school much more fun. Give this the best chance possible to be the best four years of your life.</p>

<p>I got into Michigan, UNC, Loyola, and OSU, the last two have been crossed off. I’m still waiting on Stanford, Northwestern, and JHU</p>

<p>This decision has been really difficult on me. My parents want Michigan, and so do I, but the weather and community at UNC attracts me as well, plus it is also just as good of a school. But me being from the midwest, Michigan has a really strong reputation here, and UNC not so much. So it’s that prestige factor, and I’m not as familiar with UNC than I am with Michigan </p>

<p>So for housing, I do currently live on my own, and I enjoy it. I will contact the schools about singles. Northwestern would be ideal, as I live only 10 minutes away, the same for Loyola. I would prefer my own apartment as I like the privacy, and that I could bring all of my furniture with me. Again I know some of this stuff isn’t as important, but I like being comfortable and I especially enjoy my privacy. </p>

<p>Edit: I also enjoy my own bathroom and my own washer and dryer, but again, not as important as some of the aforementioned things. </p>

<p>The Psychology ranking is completely immaterial in your case. I cannot imagine a scenario where a medical school would favor a Michigan applicant over a UNC applicant. The only exception would be Michigan medical school. But I would expect UNC medical school to favor UNC applicants. </p>

<p>However right now you’re at community college. It’s a place for you to go take classes, essentially. A residential campus such as UNC’s and UMich’s function differently and the on-campus life is essential. Studies have shown that for residential colleges it affects grades, on campus involvement, and general quality of the college experience.</p>

<p>Request a single for medical issues. Those requests are usually granted: you’ll have both privacy and community!</p>

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<p>^^^I disagree. Your number one criteria should be being close enough to home easily get back within a few hours if need be. Since you have already eliminated Loyola, NU should be your next choice if you get accepted. If not, then go to Michigan. </p>

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<p>If the OPs oncologist is ok with distance, it may not be a problem. If it is, I agree with rjk above (one of the rare times we agree). If not, I’d emphasize living arrangements in the decision making process.</p>

<p>Do medical schools really favor applicants who come from their undergraduate college? I hear that both schools offer great medical schools, but UNC I hear is better, but almost impossible to get in as an OOS</p>

<p>My oncologist is ok with distance, only if where I go there is a good support staff. Since both schools have great hospitals by them, he’s fine with them. </p>

<p>As for housing, I will request a single, but if not I will most likely look for something that is off campus, but that is still close to the school. I have found several buildings that are designed for students and are really nice. </p>

<p>“I hear that both schools offer great medical schools, but UNC I hear is better.”</p>

<p>Duke is more Michigan’s peer for medical school than UNC. The name of the game in medical school is research. That’s what brings the most prestige. Michigan does favor its top graduates for medical school. </p>

<p><a href=“http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-medical-schools/research-rankings?int=98fd08”>http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-medical-schools/research-rankings?int=98fd08&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>You hear UNC has a better medical school than Michigan? Who told you that? I would say if anything, Michigan medical school is better than UNC Medical School, but both are excellent. </p>

<p>And yes, medical schools do give preference to their own undergrads. Roughly one third of Michigan medical students did their undergraduate studies at the University of Michigan. Michigan is definitely extreme in this regard, but I am sure UNC also gives preferential treatment to applicants who did their undergraduate studies at UNC.</p>

<p>For some reason I was under the impression that medical schools didn’t give preference to their own undergraduates. I wasn’t looking at UNC Medical School anymore because I heard that it is almost impossible to get in as an OOS student. </p>

<p>Just because you attend a school as an undergrad doesn’t make you in-state for med school.
Check precisely whether either UNC or UMich require applicants to be state residents or if there are exemptions or if it doesn’t matter or if there are quotas.</p>

<p>I don’t know about UNC, but Michigan Medical school publishes class profiles. </p>

<p>For example, 53% of last year’s class (2013) were from OOS. Out of a class of 172 first year students, 45 completed their undergraduate studies at the University of Michigan. 7 at Duke and 7 at Harvard. </p>

<p>The year before (2012), 45% of the class were from OOS. Out of a class of 178, 61 completed their undergraduate studies at the University of Michigan. 6 at Yale and 5 at Cal, Harvard and Notre Dame. </p>

<p>And the year before that (2011), 53% of the class were from OOS. Out of a class of 170, 49 completed their undergraduate studies at the University of Michigan. 7 at Cal and 6 at Notre Dame and WUSTL. </p>

<p>Finally, for the class of 2010, 49% were from OOS. Out of a class of 170, 50 completed their undergraduate studies at the University of Michigan. 8 at Stanford and 7 at Michigan State.</p>

<p>In total, over the last four years, approximately 50% of Michigan medical school students came from OOS. The University of Michigan was by far the most represented, with 210 students completing their undergraduate studies at the University of Michigan. No other university placed more than 20 of their alums. Whether or not those numbers prove anything is certainly debatable, but there is a pretty clear difference. Also, there does not seem to be a significant bias against OOS applicants. </p>

<p>I hope this helps.</p>

<p><a href=“http://medicine.umich.edu/medschool/education/md-program/people-places/class-profiles”>http://medicine.umich.edu/medschool/education/md-program/people-places/class-profiles&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://medicine.umich.edu/medschool/education/md-program/people-places/class-profiles/2012”>http://medicine.umich.edu/medschool/education/md-program/people-places/class-profiles/2012&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://medicine.umich.edu/medschool/education/md-program/people-places/class-profiles/2011”>http://medicine.umich.edu/medschool/education/md-program/people-places/class-profiles/2011&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://medicine.umich.edu/medschool/education/md-program/people-places/class-profiles/2010”>http://medicine.umich.edu/medschool/education/md-program/people-places/class-profiles/2010&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>@Alexandre I was looking at the data you provided, and it appears that psych majors don’t get in as much, is this just because there aren’t as many, or do they prefer biology majors</p>